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sam
09-12-2007, 09:32 PM
http://aussieiphoneunlock.com/

Beware of beeing ripped of, they distribute a file belonging to this incident:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/breaking/false-hacker-poses-as-iphone-dev-team-unlock-author-tries-to-grab-41560-donation-298473.php

This software is using our unlock AND is not allowed to be distributed for commercial purpouse! Demand your money back from them and don't get yourself fooled with this. It's not released you pay someone for it!

"We have teamed up with a new supplier to bring you the first release Software Unlock for your iPhone
Download the application here - /* link to scam */"

We are not alfianted with this site or person, it's a fake post.

As it seems some of the IPSF reseller started a fraud campaign with our software and HaRRo (read article above). You can find a copy of a further email form another reseller below. If someone is selling you or giving you away our unlock instead, you got frauded! The license of the tool explict forbids sale.
Demand your money back if you not recieved anything. The IPSF deals were made with making $ in mind, it's not our not anyone else fault it didn't last long or even went wrong. If the business went wrong and someone took a high risk out of interest in money it's not your fault. Still keep in mind a reseller does the deal for a nice venue of mathed up a few thousend US$.

As selling the software is explict violating the anti commercial license terms we will talk back to the EFF to see what we can do about this. In the meantime try to get your funds back in the bank.

bezman
09-12-2007, 09:45 PM
gussy and trash are moving very very shady..

max.
09-12-2007, 09:49 PM
Sam,

Also trash is doing that, here is the mail:

To all our loyal customers.

To clarify a few things.

iPhoneSimFree has not provided me nor any other reseller any further licenses that we have all paid for. I have tried contacting them for the past 24 hours to ask where my licenses are. They sent me generic responses and only commented on the Free Unlock. I had been waiting on a number of unlocks to be released to me for the past day and they still have not done so.

Please do not count this as i am giving up. I want to know what happened to the licenses i paid for. I have seen the software work and sent out to my early customers and cant understand why they have not sent any of the licenses out to their resellers.

Today we made a deal with http://www.freeiphoneunlock.com

Myself and http://aussieiphoneunlock.com/ have agreed to donate the money from the sales of the software to the Dev Team for their hard efforts in bringing us the new unlock. We will be recouping our money back spent and will be posting on our sites the guides for unlocking your iPhone.

I am hoping at least iPhoneSimFree will release to me some of the licenses so those who are on List 2 please give it a few days and let me see what eventuates. Your order for this has been processed and paid for.

Please support the community and those who have tried to help you from the beginning.

Here is the Software Unlock for your iPhone
Download the application here - http://www.freeiphoneunlock.com/rls/Unlock.app.zip

kallis
09-12-2007, 10:01 PM
What do you guys expect? Do you expect the normal users to use the difficult and troublesome version instead of a version with a GUI?

Most people don't care if the "writer" of the GUI is an asshole. They just want a fast and easy solution. IPSF would not have managed to do the unlock if it weren't for the dev team, the dev team wouldn't have managed to find the unlock if it weren't for IPSF (atleast not as fast).

Everybody steals and the best solution wins. At this stage, the GUI is the best solution (even if the troublesome one is much faster). Just release a GUI and everybody will be happy, even though if it is just as ugly as his version.

sudo-s
09-12-2007, 10:51 PM
Sam and company, Thanks for your effort. Hats off to you!!

All the aussie resellers are nothing but thrash.
I guess he had made a plan to cheat the costumers after your unlock came yesterday by sending it to costumers and robbing the money. I dont think it is IPSF fault. Both the aussie sellers were been removed from the resellers list.
Please dont encourage such guys in this forum.

I guess the free donations to your team will be surpass IPSF earnings. Please put a link for donations in this forum.

Keep your good work for the community.

Number1Stunna
09-12-2007, 10:51 PM
Gussy and Trash are a couple of (bad) opportunists who took a bad risk. They chose to deal with people (IPSF) with whom they had little interaction with and, as it seems, no legally binding re-seller agreement with.

Honestly, if you take that sort of blind risk in the pursuit to make a few buck then you're bound to get screwed at some point and you deserve everything you've got coming to you.

I am ashamed to say that in the frenzy to get my phone unlocked I signed up with Trash. THis afternoon he managed to get my IMEI "activated" on the IPSF server. I am finally back at home after a long days work and I have 2 methods at my disposal to unlock my shiney new iPhone: IPSM's or HaRRo's rip-off. I have no intention on using either.

I think I'll just relax a bit and wait for Erica to release her GUI so that I can comfortably unlock my iPhone from install.app. I feel more confident using Dev Team blessed "products".

This being said - do we know roughly when the Erica GUI app will be coming? :-)

sam
09-12-2007, 10:56 PM
What do you guys expect? Do you expect the normal users to use the difficult and troublesome version instead of a version with a GUI?

Please note, he stole a GUI pre release tester or erica, asked someone to modify it for him, cause he was unable to. He told the person he is dev team member and all would be ok. Than released the app and fished off doantions for dev team all day. How you call this?


Most people don't care if the "writer" of the GUI is an asshole. They just want a fast and easy solution.


He released stolen not even beta code.


IPSF would not have managed to do the unlock if it weren't for the dev team, the dev team wouldn't have managed to find the unlock if it weren't for IPSF (atleast not as fast).


Sorry the methoso usd is in works since the weekend, the code existed and is diffrent from the IPSF method in many many ways.


Everybody steals and the best solution wins. At this stage, the GUI is the best solution (even if the troublesome one is much faster). Just release a GUI and everybody will be happy, even though if it is just as ugly as his version.

No not everyone steals. Please remind who actually released nearly all the info/researchwork whcih is resulting in the nice stuff you have around today. Without Jailbreak and toolchain you would proberly still live in brick mode advanced. The internet has a fast advancing time frame as it seems as what was there first gets easy forgotten. We don't ask for much but at least keep the reality in facts before posting such a stuff around here.

GusCrown
09-12-2007, 11:07 PM
I already opened a claim with PayPal against Trash. I was OK with him delivering the IPSF software even though a free option was out, I took that risk. But now, I won't get my IPSF software and he is offering the free option in return.

F*ck that, I wan't my money back. Either that, or give me my 2 licenses from IPSF.

goodcompany
09-12-2007, 11:57 PM
Everyone in the 2nd batch of licenses from Trash's debacle of an operation, demand your money back and dispute the sale with PayPal. He broke the terms of sale the minute he sent out that e-mail saying he was canceling the deal with IPSF and was going to still charge you for the free unlock. He made a mistake there, otherwise I wouldn't have disputed.

He un-broke the terms later by sending out confirmation of the licenses, but there are no un-do's in a transaction like this. Think about what a f***d up business world it would be if there were.

kallis
09-13-2007, 12:52 AM
What do you guys expect? Do you expect the normal users to use the difficult and troublesome version instead of a version with a GUI?

Please note, he stole a GUI pre release tester or erica, asked someone to modify it for him, cause he was unable to. He told the person he is dev team member and all would be ok. Than released the app and fished off doantions for dev team all day. How you call this? I don't like it ofc, but I don't care as long as the application is fine.

Most people don't care if the "writer" of the GUI is an asshole. They just want a fast and easy solution.

He released stolen not even beta code.
I know. That's why I used quotes around "writer". Anyway, I don't care whatever stage the software is or who the author really was, as long as it works without problems.
:)

cyberface
09-13-2007, 01:09 AM
So - Dev Team - what's the story w.r.t. the 'free' unlock code?

I was in Trash's List 2 group. After two delays, no communication, followed by Trash himself admitting he'd been scammed, I found a 'free' cracked version of the software that Trash had already sent out (i.e. the IPSF software) - via 'demon.dopeman.org' with instructions from 'Harro' as you have already mentioned.

My phone is now fully unlocked and works perfectly... and I've gone through the unix filesystem and running processes with a fine tooth comb to make sure I've not got some worm running.

The thing is that (as per the email copied above) - Trash appears to be trying to get good karma by claiming his profits will go to the dev team, since IPSF have scammed him. Hours after I unlocked the phone with the 'illegal' software, Trash emailed me saying that they've now put pressure on IPSF and all the List 2 group IMEIs have been sent to IPSF and we're all ready to rock.

The real difference was the tone of the email. I'd already emailed Trash saying 'bad luck old chap' when I thought that IPSF had ripped him off, and said that he can have my money anyway since I've got the phone working and that's what I paid for (after all, Trash sent out the SimFree.app application after I posted here saying it'd be a good idea for everyone in List 2 to get their devices ready for unlock before the licences were available....).

However in the last email Trash makes it quite clear that any Paypal disputes will be challenged, and, quote:

We are not accepting any refunds through Paypal, if you have open a dispute it will be challenged. Yes there is a free version of the Software out there but you ordered your licenses through us and we are going to supply this.

All orders are final.

I can see where he's coming from as a businessman, but you'd only throw your karma down the toilet like this if a load of your previous customers tried to reverse their payments now a free unlock is available.

Perhaps I'm being altruistic here, but anyone here who paid Trash for a licence, was delayed, then found the 'free' unlock and got their phones unlocked, should still pay Trash. Backing out of your payment, regardless of whether Trash is dealing with criminals or not, is just fucking poor form and shows a severe lack of integrity.

If Trash sent out this email just to maximise profit then he's just as bad. But I get the impression that a lot of List 2 people are trying to back out now they can get a free unlock (which works, as I've confirmed on UK Vodafone).

Remember that unless you were one of the 'proper' hackers doing work for the community, and you've been screaming with your credit card waiting for someone else to do the technical work for you, then you've got no fucking ethical leg to stand on. Trash made a business call - it looked good, then it looked like he was badly ripped off, then it looks like he's back in business. After all not all of us have iPhones with proper SSH and can piss about with the command line - there is a market for a one-click unlock application.

However it's bloody clear that there are enough people trying to back out of previous commitments and that's low behaviour. I put an order in for a TurboSIM weeks ago - missed the boat, Bladox have my money, I have no TurboSIM. But I fully expect my TurboSIM to eventually arrive, and I won't piss the supplier about by cancelling an order mid-flight. It's the same with the IPSF software, however immoral the IPSF guys were in stealing / appropriating the Dev Team's code.

Bottom line - there are a lot of us (including me, who likes to think of myself as an ethical hacker, and therefore feeling a bit dirty about this whole affair) who have used unlock code that may or may not be GPL Dev Team stuff, and I don't really know who the hell I should be paying for this.

Personally I'll be donating an equivalent amount to the Dev Team as I paid Trash for his IPSF licence (which is still active, since I haven't used it). Hopefully this will assuage my karma. Anyone disagree and think I've done the wrong thing?

GusCrown
09-13-2007, 01:16 AM
I would love to donate the money to the DEV Team, but is MY call, not Trash's call. He only has 2 options:

1.- Deliver what people paid for, all the licenses he sold, or
2.- Send money back.

I am not asking for my money back just because there is a free option, I was pretty aware that this was going to happen, but I paid anyways.

He is trying to give me the free option instead of the one I paid for, and in order for me to not coplain, he says he's going to dinate to the DEV Team, yeah right.

wackotm
09-13-2007, 02:18 AM
bahhh... time to find another IPSF provider... or I should try it myself..

ozzielad
09-13-2007, 02:38 AM
To all our loyal customers.

It seems I ruffled a few feathers and got the ball rolling on my orders.

Just a note that we have just activated and unlocked List 2. We have Full Filled 1250 Licenses. List 3 is being processed now and hopefully will be tomorrow.

We are not accepting any refunds through Paypal, if you have open a dispute it will be challenged. Yes there is a free version of the Software out there but you ordered your licenses through us and we are going to supply this.

All orders are final.

This is the email I got about 7 hours ago. Seems everything's back to normal. :)

Can anyone on the 1250 people list confirm they've gotten their unlock code?

O

brasuco
09-13-2007, 03:18 AM
So - Dev Team - what's the story w.r.t. the 'free' unlock code?

I was in Trash's List 2 group. After two delays, no communication, followed by Trash himself admitting he'd been scammed, I found a 'free' cracked version of the software that Trash had already sent out (i.e. the IPSF software) - via 'demon.dopeman.org' with instructions from 'Harro' as you have already mentioned.

Anyone disagree and think I've done the wrong thing?

The only think you didn't get very well is the fact that the unlock that was released by the dev team exploits a different bug (or feature?) in the baseband. It's, thus, totally different from the ipsf solution.

So it's not a "cracked" version of any thing, it's the real deal.

Cheers.

meowth
09-13-2007, 03:22 AM
This "Trash" guy is a very savvy business man not some hapless teenager trying to make a quick buck or someone to help out follow iphone owners. He probably paid up for the first 250 or so licenses at whatever price IPSF demands and hence did get the ball rolling and get even more peeps signed up and paid up. Then he didn't paid for the subsequent peeps on his list to IPSF -who had already paid him - because he knew that a free unlock is on its way and so he waits. (Look, if he paid IPSF, they would have entered those thousands of IMEI numbers but judging from the irate people posting here, it didn't happen!) He had nothing to lose - he can either deliver the free unlock as the solution or use it as a bargaining chip with IPSF whose goods is now practically worthless. He can basically demand them to sell it to him at a very cheap price. Thus he will be able to deliver the licenses to buyers and keep the profit - now even bigger. So neither IPSF nor the reseller are worth anyone's sympathy. Customers should demand $$ back. Just my 2 cent...

Frisky Dingo
09-13-2007, 04:28 AM
He said he wouldnt charge us until the software was released AND confirmed working. However, he charged us way before it was released and confirmed. I though the was going to use his own money to make the bank transfer.

laurenmd
09-13-2007, 04:36 AM
I'm part of the "second" group and I'm trying to confirm now that the unlock from "SimFree.app" is activated. I'll post results.

joe_hensonn
09-13-2007, 06:56 AM
He said he wouldnt charge us until the software was released AND confirmed working. However, he charged us way before it was released and confirmed. I though the was going to use his own money to make the bank transfer.

if you look at the paypal terms and conditions you will see that they do not offer any form of protection for digital content (eg software). i believe that paypal will use any excuse (and they have a pretty good one in their t&c) to wash their hands of this whole issue. i don't think you guys will have any luck with paypal.

a much better option would be to apply for a chargeback with your credit card issuer. this will have much more stroke and you don't need paypal for this. in fact paypal relies heavily on credit card issuers so they will take probably notice of all the disputes regarding this product if a few people enact chargebacks.

it's pretty obvious that all of the resellers covered their asses by collecting the money before wiring it to iphonsimfree. and it would appear that they didn't wire the money when they said they would. further, at least in trash's case, he has only produced evidence of one wire tranfer ($28k) when he had ample opportunity to produce evidence of any others that he may have done.

what frisky says is totally true, in the initial stages trash said no money would need to be paid until the software was release.

i didn't buy from him so i don't know when the retail charge was actually made but the only wire transfer he has shown was dated 11/9 (9/11 for those of you in the states) and there is no way that would have hit ipsf's bank account on the same day. so there is no way he could have received (and 'confirmed' as he himself put it) the software before 12th sept. did he charge you guys before sept 12th??

offering the free gui as he did last night, and particularly saying that he had 'teamed up with haRRo' is just pure crap and not an acceptable solution.

a chargeback is your best option.

Frisky Dingo
09-13-2007, 07:13 AM
if you look at the paypal terms and conditions you will see that they do not offer any form of protection for digital content (eg software). i believe that paypal will use any excuse (and they have a pretty good one in their t&c) to wash their hands of this whole issue. i don't think you guys will have any luck with paypal.

a much better option would be to apply for a chargeback with your credit card issuer. this will have much more stroke and you don't need paypal for this. in fact paypal relies heavily on credit card issuers so they will take probably notice of all the disputes regarding this product if a few people enact chargebacks.

it's pretty obvious that all of the resellers covered their asses by collecting the money before wiring it to iphonsimfree. and it would appear that they didn't wire the money when they said they would. further, at least in trash's case, he has only produced evidence of one wire tranfer ($28k) when he had ample opportunity to produce evidence of any others that he may have done.

what frisky says is totally true, in the initial stages trash said no money would need to be paid until the software was release.

i didn't buy from him so i don't know when the retail charge was actually made but the only wire transfer he has shown was dated 11/9 (9/11 for those of you in the states) and there is no way that would have hit ipsf's bank account on the same day. so there is no way he could have received (and 'confirmed' as he himself put it) the software before 12th sept. did he charge you guys before sept 12th??

offering the free gui as he did last night, and particularly saying that he had 'teamed up with haRRo' is just pure crap and not an acceptable solution.

a chargeback is your best option.

yes he charged us BEFORE the 12th.

AvexZek
09-13-2007, 07:19 AM
........

Sadly.... I'm one of the victims of "Trash" crap......

I put good faith on him and turns out he cheat on us !

As a reseller, he charge us US$50 per license while he only pay US$28 to IPSM.

He have a margin of almost 78%.... He should be the one that bear the risk but not us.... So at the moments that I read his mail saying that >>>>> "iPhoneSimFree has not provided me nor any other reseller any further licenses that we have all paid for." <<<<< I immediately filed a dispute on Paypal....

Hopefully I can get back what I have paid !!!!!

Too bad for him to use this community to cheat on us !!!

AvexZek

Spook75
09-13-2007, 09:51 AM
Read this...this poster said it right.

http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5985

snout
09-13-2007, 12:37 PM
He can challenge it on PayPal all he wants, but the problem is he's accepted liability on this website.

I have the links and will provide them to PayPal.

He's already lost.

lateralus1082
09-13-2007, 06:43 PM
He can challenge it on PayPal all he wants, but the problem is he's accepted liability on this website.

I have the links and will provide them to PayPal.

He's already lost.

Can you PM me those links? I already filed a claim on Paypal...

oscarferreira
09-14-2007, 04:40 AM
He ripped people off and that's the end of it.

I purchased the software from him before the free one even came out because the wording on his site at the time led me and others to believe that he was in possession of the software which I was buying.

After I purchased the software I received a email stating that he did NOT have the software yet, and that he was waiting for it. Then another stating that he had been ripped off, and so forth and so on. So I told him that very day (the morning after I purchased it) that I wanted a refund immediately, again prior to the free software coming out in case your thinking I just didn't want to pay. He actually stated that if I was not pleased that I was welcome to a refund. Of course that never happened but I do have that email correspondence from that conversation and others.

My complaint to Paypal and my credit card company is that he was advertising that he had the software , but did not, and four days later still didn't. The following day after I was told that I was on some sort of waiting list i emailed to tell him that I didn't pay $50 to be put on a waiting list and that he should have made that clear on his website. Hell if I thought I would be on a waiting list then I would have waited without paying.
Anyhow, my complaint to paypal isn't that the software isn't any good, it's that he was dishonest and didn't provide what he was stating on his website at the time. My credit card company has already told me that I have grounds for a complained based on that information and that they will be seriously looking into the situation. I also called the fraud department of my credit card company and advised them on how alot of people were in the same situation. Paypal has also written back to say that they are also pursuing the matter. However, I won't hold my breath with them.

I have also taken it upon my self to pass on his information to the Australian Federal Police who I worked with when I lived there a few years back. Friends of mine who work out of Sydney office are going to be looking into internet fraud and possibly other charges (they'll find something). I know for a fact as of 5:00pm Eastern time that a pal of mine from the Federal Police has already contacted VISA and MASTERCARD regarding this situation.

I don't know about you guys but I am NOT going to allow people like him to rip others off including myself without doing everything I can.

It's too bad for him that I have quite a few connections in the Australian Police services as well as North America.

It would be in this guys best interest to refund those people back their money. The amount of money we're talking about here is major fraud no matter where your from.

Niftyiphone
09-14-2007, 04:52 AM
Where Trash fell down here as far as i am concerned is 2 areas.

1. He annouced the problems and subsequent dissolving of the relationship with IPSF on his website. He then didnt offer an immediate refund to those people who had paid, in fact refused to, and instead linked to a FREE download of an unlock software program and instructions (which we found out was actually stolen). He expected people to pay him $60 for FREE software.... this is indeed a scam in every sense of the word.

2. He and IPSF point their customers to this forum for all tech support. This site is in no way affiliated or connected with IPSF and while not illegal its taking a huge liberty. If you going to sell a product set up your own friggen forums to offer tech support!

But the first and foremost point is that Trash renegged on a deal to his customers and them tried to cover it up by selling a FREE program and refusing to refund all money.

Trash
09-14-2007, 04:54 AM
This is utter Bullshit now.

iphoneworldwideunlock.com is selling the iPhoneSimFree Aplication and Authorisation Licenses.

Yes we had a minor issue and have resolved that and have full filled our Lists 1, 2 & 3 for customers who had ordered with their IPSF licenses. We have notified people that this was to do with bank transfer delays and have worked with IPSF now to open up quicker communication lines.

We are supplying List 4 customers with their licenses very soon and have update status on our website for orders.

If people think now they want a refund from Paypal you will have to be kidding. Once the IMEIs are with IPSF they cannot be changed or transfered. This is the same once its in our system. It also is for when you ordered and paid for through Paypal as we compile and order list and these sales are final.

I have notified Paypal that i can provide customer lists to them if required that show the inputed details of your transactions.

Niftyiphone
09-14-2007, 05:35 AM
Trash, That does not explain or excuse that for a period of time you had a link up for a free download instead of the purchased software for customers and refused to refund money instantly.

Forget what has gone on since then its totally irrelevant for any order placed after that.

Fact: you sold the IPSF licence as a presell so customers bought "on faith" that that is what they were getting.
Fact: you pulled it down and replaced it with a Free Freely available option (that was in fact stolen) and refused to refund all money to customers.

Trash
09-14-2007, 07:07 AM
Trash, That does not explain or excuse that for a period of time you had a link up for a free download instead of the purchased software for customers and refused to refund money instantly.

Forget what has gone on since then its totally irrelevant for any order placed after that.

Fact: you sold the IPSF licence as a presell so customers bought "on faith" that that is what they were getting.
Fact: you pulled it down and replaced it with a Free Freely available option (that was in fact stolen) and refused to refund all money to customers.

Fact: I have supplied List 1, 2 & 3 and soon to be 4 with the licenses purchased.
Fact: I have stated many times to customers that all orders are final, this has been on our website & emails.

TeflonFong
09-14-2007, 07:20 AM
To all our loyal customers.

We have been let down by iPhoneSimFree. I paid for 2500 licenses then received nothing spent my own money on this venture.

I did it for the community and hopefully you can stick by me.

We have teamed up with a new supplier to bring you the first release Software Unlock for your iPhone
Download the application here - http://www.freeiphoneunlock.com/rls/Unlock.app.zip

Our website www.iphoneworldwideunlock.com will be hosting the full install guides as well as information on any updates on the application

Here is a guide

Software Unlock

First of all im gonna warn you make sure your running version 1.02 firmware.

Settings → General → About → Version. Modem Firmware should also say 03.14.08_G

Your phone will also need to be jailbroken you can use iBrickr for this!

More information on the Dev Wiki to do so!

Next Download the GUI Application and extract it and upload to your Iphones /Applications/ Directory

It should be /Applications/Unlock.app/

You should now see Unlock icon on your iphone run this!

Leave it for about 20mins to work (yes slow but im working an know how to make this around 3minutes already tested)

It should pause at Flashing firmware for 20minutes, this and wont move the percentage bar will not move as this is beta the new version will be a 2-5minute process.

This is still buggy and i will release a faster version in a few days as i havent slept.

Also when after complete hit the home button and restart iphone if you dont get signal

sjowol
09-14-2007, 07:20 AM
as i read clearly in Trash's e-mail sent out on sept. 12 he will have donated all the money to the dev team, is there any confirmation to that?
I'd be happy to drop my claim if i can actually see confirmation my money went to the people wjho deserve it.
Myself and http://aussieiphoneunlock.com/ have agreed to donate the money from the sales of the software to the Dev Team for their hard efforts in bringing us the new unlock.
We will be recouping our money back spent and will be posting on our sites
the guides for unlocking your iPhone.

TeflonFong
09-14-2007, 07:32 AM
Trash I am sorry for the confusion on whoever's part it was (miscommunication or whatever) but I understood from that email that you teamed up with a new supplier and I followed the application that you gave me...when i saw that this application was not anywhere near what I had ordered I called a guy I know who deals with phones...I paid him 60.00 as I am not as privy with that stuff and he did it successfully- I was in a rush to unlock my phone as I am traveling out of the US.

I received ur email today about getting thru- and if it wasnt for the email you sent about getting NOTHING from IphoneSimFree and a new supplier I would not have paid the tech guy 60.00.

the email was very misleading and i hope you understand that, maybe not- but I found it that way

all the best in your future endeavors.

Frisky Dingo
09-14-2007, 08:02 AM
Fact: I have supplied List 1, 2 & 3 and soon to be 4 with the licenses purchased.
Fact: I have stated many times to customers that all orders are final, this has been on our website & emails.

so what about the whole deal with NOT charging us BEFORE the software was released AND confirmed working. I was charged on the FIFTH and the software was released on the what...10th? how do you explain that?

Trash
09-14-2007, 08:06 AM
I am not getting into any more discussions about this. We have resolved and clarified out position and have full filled the orders with the IPSF application as stated. We have paid for our licenses upfront and activated all of these for List 1 - 3. Our next batch of licenses are being approved soon and we are about to notify all those people today. After list 4 goes out we would have full filed all orders and can move on.

As far as i am concerned and have documented the orders have been done.

Trash
09-14-2007, 08:08 AM
so what about the whole deal with NOT charging us BEFORE the software was released AND confirmed working. I was charged on the FIFTH and the software was released on the what...10th? how do you explain that?

Those payments were processed automatically when I upgraded the paypal account. I didnt know that happened until after a customer notified me and i looked into it. The payments would have been processed soon after anyway on confirmation of the software.

synenergy52
09-14-2007, 08:11 AM
Fact: I have supplied List 1, 2 & 3 and soon to be 4 with the licenses purchased.
Fact: I have stated many times to customers that all orders are final, this has been on our website & emails.


Contradictory. Your blog stated that refunds can be accomodated at any time during the transaction. (I wish I had taken a screenshot--conveniently this has been taken down)

In my particular case, I requested a refund on your blog (which has also been removed) BEFORE the free hack AND the IPSF licenses were released.

How are you going to charge for something which was offered for free anyway? All you did was host the software packet and provide a link for it claiming it as your "own solution." Your intentions seem good from the get-go, but I think as soon as you seen $$ signs, you went back on your own business ethics. At the very minimum, offer a 50% refund to those who are requesting refunds. You choose to keep the money for the paid licenses AND profit off of it. Bad.

synenergy52
09-14-2007, 08:16 AM
Sorry -- I meant this for www.aussieiphoneunlock.com not to trash.

Trash
09-14-2007, 08:57 AM
Sorry -- I meant this for www.aussieiphoneunlock.com not to trash.

Can you please edit the post above then so people dont get confused.

snout
09-14-2007, 12:43 PM
Trash has told lots of lies - about donating, not taking money before the release and most importantly, about refunds.

Already got my money back through a chargeback anyway, so now its between my bank, PayPal and Trash.

Frisky Dingo
09-14-2007, 03:31 PM
it just looks like you took the risk with our money and not your own, but you try to make it look like you are doing us all a huge favor for it.

chetanzcool
09-14-2007, 04:43 PM
what a CHEAT trash is.... Completely Trash!

oscarferreira
09-14-2007, 05:35 PM
No matter what he says he's full of sh$t!

Notice how he doesn't answer any questions regarding the link to the free software that he put out. Or that he removed the refund section from his webpage. That by itself speaks volumes about his character!!!

He's a lier!

Every single person who dealt with this guy should call there credit card company's fraud department, paypal and the Australian Federal Police. I will give you their number if someone wants it.

Do not let people like this get away with ripping you off...do something about it.

If he at least refunded only the amount that he was charged by iphonesimfree then he wouldn't lose any money but he's not even willing to do that! Why? Two words...dollar signs!

AppleNick
09-14-2007, 05:41 PM
Since Trash doesnīt want to reply to my emails, I also get my money back from PayPal. He didnīt even deliver my 3 licenses. Whatever. He has to deal with PayPal. Iīm so upset with this $$$$$ guy!

wcabot
09-14-2007, 06:18 PM
No matter what he says he's full of sh$t!

Notice how he doesn't answer any questions regarding the link to the free software that he put out. Or that he removed the refund section from his webpage. That by itself speaks volumes about his character!!!

He's a lier!

Every single person who dealt with this guy should call there credit card company's fraud department, paypal and the Australian Federal Police. I will give you their number if someone wants it.

Do not let people like this get away with ripping you off...do something about it.

If he at least refunded only the amount that he was charged by iphonesimfree then he wouldn't lose any money but he's not even willing to do that! Why? Two words...dollar signs!

The con artist is not in AUS, I think. If you google "Sasha Vatoff scam" you'll be amazed with the results...all based in AUS though. There's a site where he tries to convince people to buy him a Hummer.

He's is CA, USA.

Contact: Sasha Vatoff
+1 310 928 1091

snout
09-14-2007, 06:44 PM
Whats the link to this site? Can you PM?

wcabot
09-14-2007, 06:45 PM
Whats the link to this site? Can you PM?
\http://www.onlypunjab.com/investments/fullstory-insight-investments+stocks-newsID-2538.html
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/1/prweb330939.htm

The below excerpt was extracted from the following link:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/09/iphone_software_solution_works.html

"As I was able to see today, the customer experience to unlock an iPhone is not pretty. In fact, it's awful because most final users don't know a thing about SSH, SFTP or the Terminal. At 3:25PM EST I watched as Sasha Vatoff, from the australian iPhone Sim Free reseller, tried to guide customers Paul Taylor and Philipp Meier through the whole installation process. They were going to be the first final customers ever to unlock the iPhone. No press. Just normal users. So early in the game, I had to jump in to help them install the software because iFuntastic wouldn't work with Phil's iTunes 7.4 and Paul iFuntastic didn't work at all."

va2sh
09-14-2007, 09:18 PM
The con artist is not in AUS, I think. If you google "Sasha Vatoff scam" you'll be amazed with the results...all based in AUS though. There's a site where he tries to convince people to buy him a Hummer.

He's is CA, USA.

Contact: Sasha Vatoff
+1 310 928 1091

The more people who report him to paypal and to the Federal authorities for fraud will get the ball rolling he is a Con artist who should pay us all back with interest. :mad:

Frisky Dingo
09-15-2007, 02:42 AM
:mad: i want my money back Trash. I will dispute you until the end.

ehaser
09-15-2007, 02:54 AM
SO I was one of the people on the third list... I got an email with this link
I installed the software via ifuntastic and nothing happens..However I didn't know that there were other steps involved? I had an unshackled phone and just put the application on the phone via Ifuntastic. When I click the app. the screes on on my iphone simply goes blank? Are there other steps that someone can help me with? Or is this software bung or llegit?? should i install it again??


""
Welcome List 3

Your IMEI has been entered in the iPhoneSimFree Database and is ready for unlock. Your order is now complete

To download your software please visit this link - http://iphoneworldwideunlock.com/files/software/IPSF/SimFree-rc5.zip

We cant supply any technical support on this but there are threads here that can help you - http://www.hackint0sh.org/

If you need a rough guide please follow the link on our website
http://iphoneworldwideunlock.com/install.html

On that note. If you have any Paypal Disputes open you must now close them as your order has been full filled. A record of this has been kept on our system for any further disputes.

http://www.iphoneworldwideunlock.com
iPhoneSimFree Premium Reseller""

Niftyiphone
09-15-2007, 03:53 AM
We cant supply any technical support on this but there are threads here that can help you - http://www.hackint0sh.org/


This is what is pissing me off about this whole IPSF and their resellers.

this is NOT a IPSF tech support forum. If IPSF and their resellers cant hep theri customers then they are just in it for a quick Buck! and what is that saying to you about them.

DO NOT BUY OFF THEM.

Their continual pointing off all their customers to here is simply filling up the place with crap!

If you have bought IPSF and are having problems EMAIL THEM, then emailt hem again and again and again until they answer you.

mongoose8p
09-15-2007, 04:39 AM
everyone is being such a dick to trash if you have ever talked to him you would know that he is a great guy and very easy to deal with! and not its NOT THE RESELLER RESPONSIBILITY FOR TECH SUPPORT! thats iphonesimfrees job THEY are supplying the software if you forgot! TRASH HAS FILLED ALL ORDERS! List 4 is being sold and is going out on Monday So everyone stfu trash is a good guy dealing with this all very well if you were actually his customer you would know why he offered the free unlock/ dontation to dev team or refund! IPSF WOULDN"T RESPOND OR ACTIVATE LIST 2 for days!!!! So he was being nice and giving you an alternivte now IPSF got back to him and worked it all out so plesase don't talk if ur not a customer and not know what your talking about. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DISPUTE! YOU PURCHASED SOMETHING the dispute on paypal says that you didn't recieve what you payed for!!! YOU DID so please give trash some credit and all the haters just shutup!

oscarferreira
09-15-2007, 05:53 AM
Lord Jesus!!!

Sit down wake up and smell the coffee. Have you even read all the posts. Just the fact that this idiot was trying to get people to download the free unlock and claim it as the unlock from iphonesimfree is enough to judge his character. Not to mention that he had on his website that he would offer a full refund and then took it off. Also, if IPSF was stalling and NOT giving him the unlock codes then refund your clients because no one signed up to be put on a waiting list! His clients could have gone someplace else who actually had the software to release or wait themselves!

You said "He's a great guy, and easy to deal with!" Holy crap so was Ted Bunday, and it was nieve people like you who wrote him love letters till the day he went to the electric chair. The point is, what did you expect a con artist who is an asshole! In my line of work they don't exist. The con artist are sweet talkers who blame everyone else while they collect the money!

Someone said something about him being in the states. I f'n hope so because then he is Royally screwed! That I promise you!

I'm pissed like many others, and it's NOT about a measly $50 (which to some people is allot of money) but the point of the matter. I would have rather taken that money and gave it to the dev team who busted there ass for weeks on end to come up with an unlock. Hell I would have rather given to the poor soul who came up to my car to wash my windows for money!

I sh$t you not I will use every single resource at my disposal to screw this guy! It may take some time but I have a feeling eventually it will catch up to him.

P.S. I'm not trying to attack you but I think your just not looking at the full picture.

sjowol
09-15-2007, 08:49 AM
mongoose8p
LOL!
either you are trash himself or he must be paying you $hitloads to write this utter crap.
everyone knows (by now) trash is a con-artist extra-ordinaire who did not forfill his promises!
I and many others made a refund-claim way before the software was sent out. frankly i do not care if he delivered or not! i want my money back (or proof of it being sent to the dev team!)

snout
09-15-2007, 11:13 AM
I'm sure Trash has enough cash to buy his Hummer now.

BustAGroove
09-15-2007, 11:04 PM
Tired of playing the waiting game: Clock is ticking on the 14-day window to return IPhone; login with username and password into order data form website to input my IPhone's IMEI, etc. doesn't work (Login failed error); no response to emails or from posts on this forum from Trash. I just filed my Paypal dispute claim against Trash. If I'm able to get my $$$ back, I'm going to transfer the Paypal payment to the DevTeam, they have more than earned it.

Email received from Paypal: The seller has 10 days to respond to the buyer's claim. PayPal will notify the buyer when the seller has responded. If the seller chooses not to respond, the buyer's claim will be granted. Please keep in mind that active participation is essential to the claims process. Prompt communication helps us manage claims efficiently and fairly.

meowth
09-15-2007, 11:23 PM
I'm sure Trash has enough cash to buy his Hummer now.

and he went from polluting the forum to polluting the earth...

iphonewiz
09-16-2007, 01:15 AM
Sam and company, Thanks for your effort. Hats off to you!!

All the aussie resellers are nothing but thrash.
I guess he had made a plan to cheat the costumers after your unlock came yesterday by sending it to costumers and robbing the money. I dont think it is IPSF fault. Both the aussie sellers were been removed from the resellers list.
Please dont encourage such guys in this forum.

I guess the free donations to your team will be surpass IPSF earnings. Please put a link for donations in this forum.

Keep your good work for the community.
You cannot beleive how much vindicated I feel, when I posted 15 days ago a warning about this Trash I was sent packing by a bunch of ass holes; I hope they paid the price of their stupidity and arrogance.

I feel bad that this forum allowed a bunch of fast talkers to set up a scam; there should be more control over what is posted.

lizard
09-16-2007, 04:39 AM
You cannot beleive how much vindicated I feel, when I posted 15 days ago a warning about this Trash I was sent packing by a bunch of ass holes; I hope they paid the price of their stupidity and arrogance.

I feel bad that this forum allowed a bunch of fast talkers to set up a scam; there should be more control over what is posted.

I second it.

sam
09-16-2007, 03:02 PM
I feel bad that this forum allowed a bunch of fast talkers to set up a scam; there should be more control over what is posted.

User demanded it, user got it. And if you might have noticed I hold up my warning to the last possible. I was even expecting them to ru with the money entirely. It's not easy to make such decissions at al but I think we acted right here. That someone still went on business with someone willing to transfer 18k$ to SanMarino, sorry not our fault.

theviolator
09-17-2007, 10:06 AM
Hey guys, he is in L.A. I think it wont be too hard to find out his address (if you know what I mean) :D :D :D

Trash
09-17-2007, 10:07 AM
My Response to you all.

I have supplied all our customers with their Activations. It doesn't matter if you are using the Free Unlock or any other unlock, i held up my end of the deal and supplied everyone who purchased through me an activation with IPSF.

I quickly rectified any situation that occurred last week. Some of you might feel disgruntled that a Free Unlock came out days after but the fact is you purchased off us and we supplied back to you.

I have clear records of Payment Transactions and Delivery details of all your orders and Authorisations with IPSF. I am supplying these to Paypal so they can confirm that the orders where delivered.

Some of you filed Un Authorised Transactions or Charge backs even after me communication with you and you also submitting your IMEI, Serial Number, Paypal Transaction ID, Email and Full Name. Do you know filing these types of complaints are Fraudulent. You are basically telling Paypal you didn't make this transaction but yet your personal details and iPhone identification managed to get into our Database and on to IPSF's server.

Just for the record there is only about 150 odd complaints i have had on Paypal for a refund. That is mostly probably made up of you forum members who want your money back for what? Your IMEI's are in the IPSF server.

I have sent out an email to All customers since day one last night informing them if they didn't receive their order to contact me and also that all IMEI's are in the IPSF Database and that they should install and run the SimFree App.

Hold a grudge if you like, but i am trying to do the right thing. Yes if this all went to shit last week i would have had to refund money or do what i announced but I quickly resolved it and delivered the iPhoneSimFree Application and Authorisations.

As a last comment. If it wasn't for the iPhoneSimFree Application the Dev Team would have not solved the software unlock. Either way your purchase from me helped this be achieved.

jriff
09-17-2007, 11:38 AM
Has anybody made calculations as to how much money the different resellers made? It must be quite a lot.

sam
09-17-2007, 11:54 AM
As a last comment. If it wasn't for the iPhoneSimFree Application the Dev Team would have not solved the software unlock. Either way your purchase from me helped this be achieved.

Please associate this fairy tale with your nickname :)

razor
09-17-2007, 06:12 PM
Trash.. stop talking trash... if it wasnt for the dev team, IPSF wudnt have come out with the unlock... and the Dev Team unlock isnt the same as the IPSF simfree app... stop crying like a kid...

maverick808
09-17-2007, 07:06 PM
Just for the record there is only about 150 odd complaints i have had on Paypal for a refund. That is mostly probably made up of you forum members who want your money back for what? Your IMEI's are in the IPSF server.

I paid and never sent my IMEI to you so you are lying when you say all the customers have their details registered with IPSF. You don't have my IMEI and never did, so how can it be registered? I have had no personal contact from you and am still waiting on a refund.

I won't reply here, if you have anything to say about this then contact me personally or add it to the PayPal dispute, which as far as I can tell you haven't responded to in any way.

AppleNick
09-17-2007, 07:48 PM
I paid and never sent my IMEI to you so you are lying when you say all the customers have their details registered with IPSF. You don't have my IMEI and never did, so how can it be registered? I have had no personal contact from you and am still waiting on a refund.

I won't reply here, if you have anything to say about this then contact me personally or add it to the PayPal dispute, which as far as I can tell you haven't responded to in any way.

Same here... And still no reply. I just want my money back. Thatīs what I told PayPal, too.

Abdo Abdala
09-17-2007, 09:02 PM
Hi, Please,

this software aussie is free ? http://aussieiphoneunlock.com/

active total iphone ?

have solution for youtube.

thanks

Santfekuss
09-17-2007, 10:21 PM
I've paid you Trash, you do not have my IMEI .......... and, are you sending out the one advertised above ? or the iSPF one.........the one we all paid for....as per contract of sale ?
My spam filter is not blocking your emails either.......never recieved one email from you until I queried the order.
So, at the end of the day, which SW unlock will you send out ?

wackotm
09-18-2007, 01:59 AM
Not to stir the shiet ... the reason that I *wanted* to purchase from IPSF was I beleived that the group publishing the software was a commercial vendor. Then I come across the installation page from IWWU and I get this ..

Please note we cannot offer technical support on installation of this application. We have supplied instructions on how to run the software, which is the "Steps to Unlock Tutorial" as supplied to us by iPhoneSimFree. < http://iphoneworldwideunlock.com/install/ >

I dont get it. selling something (esp. a piece of software) online means either installation tech support, 30day, or an option to purchase tech support. Then this block of text:

"It is upto the customer to install the application onto their iPhone. This is due to us not being responsible for any damages you incur on your iPhone while loading it through 3rd party applications."

So the "commerical" application is based on all the other hackky tools required to install the IPSF application in the first place. The average end-user would have no clue as to how to install the hackky tools and get the .app file loaded up in the first place.

So to disclaim any techincal support and its shear dependence on other hackky tools makes for an annoymous group that developed another hackky application and is not a commerical enterprise.

I thought I could simply call IPSF if I had problems with the installation or any sim errors I would get. But, theres no tech number, no 800, no local number, just an email address that IPSF dosn't respond to.

Lets see: 50 bucks for a piece of 'hackky' software that I must figure out, install myself, cannot get any guidence from a reseller or IPSF. Damn. if I have to hack my phone just to get the software up onto the springboard, then I would have enough computer experenice to install the other alternatives.

So that's why I stopped myself before handing over my CC number to an ISPF reseller.

ale
09-18-2007, 02:48 AM
My Response to you all.

...Just for the record there is only about 150 odd complaints i have had on Paypal for a refund....Do you know filing these types of complaints are Fraudulent

Guess they are some more than that. Pity try to avoid others who are entitled to by doing it. I'm not sure you have dealt with PayPal before...you'll find out.
Good luck :D

synenergy52
09-18-2007, 07:59 AM
Yeah F*ck them I hope word gets out that they're fucking scammers. Low lives

AppleNick
09-18-2007, 09:16 AM
Guess they are some more than that. Pity try to avoid others who are entitled to by doing it. I'm not sure you have dealt with PayPal before...you'll find out.
Good luck :D

Everybody should get a refund! And yes, PayPal is on the customerīs side. Since he has 100īs of complaints filed against him, Like you said: PayPal knows what to do. But he absolutely deserved it. No customer service, nothing!

Trash
09-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Everyone should just get over it all. I delivered on the IPSF software. The ones who want refunds are just plain stingy.

916sp
09-18-2007, 12:51 PM
The ones who want refunds are just plain stingy.

Aah, now he begins to show his real face...........

bezman
09-18-2007, 05:48 PM
Everyone should just get over it all. I delivered on the IPSF software. The ones who want refunds are just plain stingy.


some of the ppl asking for refunds have also siad that they DID NOT receive any software from you and they PAID in FULL..

someone else is sounding kinda stingy

snout
09-18-2007, 06:18 PM
Everyone should just get over it all. I delivered on the IPSF software. The ones who want refunds are just plain stingy.

You sound like a child Trash.

Bought your Hummer yet?

Cretin.

AppleNick
09-18-2007, 08:43 PM
Well whatever... Me and many others will get their money back from PayPal. Wann bet, Trash?

EHSFFL
09-19-2007, 12:44 AM
I paid & have requested a paypal chargeback because I have not received the software as promised.

Plain & simple truth

GiRARDsays
09-19-2007, 01:03 AM
I paid & have requested a paypal chargeback because I have not received the software as promised.

Plain & simple truth


Ditto. Trash is a very unscrupulous human being. He just needs to do what is right.

telecommando
09-19-2007, 07:18 AM
I would say that if the iPhone unlock apps had better instructions you would eliminate the need for these reseller consultant types

Cripes not everyone knows their way around unix etc

The supposed 1click anysim software needs you to do a few things and it ain't obvious. Most guys think a one click unlock means launching an app from OS X desktop- there are no good docs in the location where you download the files

So while iwasted three hours figuring it all out myself, it would have saved money if I had paid one of these consultants

Time is money

I hope new files come with good walkthrough instructions
in the future good work dev team but we mere mortals need script kiddy instructions please

MuscleNerd
09-19-2007, 08:35 AM
Well whatever... Me and many others will get their money back from PayPal. Wann bet, Trash?

I'll take that bet.

Your money is spent, and you got what you paid for. Don't be greedy....get over it.

Think: karma.

AppleNick
09-19-2007, 11:46 AM
I'll take that bet.

Your money is spent, and you got what you paid for. Don't be greedy....get over it.

Think: karma.

Seems like you didnīt get it. There are some buyers who havenīt provided him with their IMEIs (like me). So we havenīt received anything.

MuscleNerd
09-19-2007, 11:56 AM
So then follow through with your purchase and provide him your IMEI to receive your unlock. What else is there to do? You bought the item, now follow through with the purchase. Trash was obviously in this thing to make a buck (and not for any altruistic hacker ethics) but he is following through on his commitments.

His silence when others were hailing him as some hero...that is very telling, of course. I personally think he's a leech..certainly not a scammer though.

But my "karma" comment was not made in jest. If you screw a guy over because another offer became more attractive later, karma may come back and bite you later. If you have a legitimate beef with Trash (the IPSF unlock doesn't work), then demand a refund. But if you just want to renege on a sale because a freebie became available, then just think about karma :)

schalkse
09-19-2007, 12:12 PM
So then follow through with your purchase and provide him your IMEI to receive your unlock. What else is there to do? You bought the item, now follow through with the purchase. Trash was obviously in this thing to make a buck (and not for any altruistic hacker ethics) but he is following through on his commitments.

His silence when others were hailing him as some hero...that is very telling, of course.

But my "karma" comment was not made in jest. If you screw a guy over because another offer became more attractive later, karma may come back and bite you later. If you have an honest beef with Trash, then work it out. But if you just want to renege on a sale because a freebie became available, then I revert to my "karma" comment.

I agree with that. All of you are winers, a bunch of kids. You wanted your iPhone unlocked and choose to buy. Simple as that! Hell, I never saw so much funny posts of ppl. Even ppl so stupid that they break their own iphone with the Geo hardware hack and then come crying over here that there beloved iphone no longer works.
Some choose to pay for an unlock, other choose to wait for the free one to come out.
You all made your choice, so learn to live with your mistakes. And don't come crying over here that you want your money back! Follow through the process and get your license. Trash has done nothing wrong. It's your order, so you pay!

maskwearer
09-19-2007, 12:32 PM
Hey all,
I tried to unlock my iPhone 10 times now, and I'm about to throw it out of the window...almost. I tried anySIm as well as SIMfree, which I paid for. The later doesn't work, appearantly my IMEI hasn't been correctly transferred to SIMfree. So I put my hopes on anySIM.
$50 for the person to help me out here! Here's what I did (using a Mac):

Used tools:
iTunes 7.4.2
Independence 1.2.1
Cyberduck
AnyApp

Procedure:
1. Restored my iPhone through iTunes to Firmware 1.0.2
2. Inserted AT&T SIM. Opened Independence and clicked ACTIVATE
(in other attempts I also jailbreaked te phone afterwards, since after activation, the program sets the iPhone "back to jail")
3. Installed SSH via Independence
4. Reboot
5. Installed INSTALLER.app on iPhone
6. Via the Installer I installed
COMMUNITY SOURCES
BSD SUBSYSTEMS
OPEN SSH
7. via CYBERDUCK I place the anySIM.app in my applications folder
8. Reboot iPhone & replace AT&T SIM with my SIM
9. Start anySIM
10. After I get the comomly known error "Unlock fails" I reboot, but the first thing that pops up:
"SIM LOCKED"

I also tried to use anySIM without any SIM inserted.

I'm a total wreck now, I just don't get what else can I do!

Please help! :-(

Thx & Greetz

Eric

schalkse
09-19-2007, 12:47 PM
Hey all,
I tried to unlock my iPhone 10 times now, and I'm about to throw it out of the window...almost. I tried anySIm as well as SIMfree, which I paid for. The later doesn't work, appearantly my IMEI hasn't been correctly transferred to SIMfree. So I put my hopes on anySIM.
$50 for the person to help me out here! Here's what I did (using a Mac):

Used tools:
iTunes 7.4.2
Independence 1.2.1
Cyberduck
AnyApp

Procedure:
1. Restored my iPhone through iTunes to Firmware 1.0.2
2. Inserted AT&T SIM. Opened Independence and clicked ACTIVATE
(in other attempts I also jailbreaked te phone afterwards, since after activation, the program sets the iPhone "back to jail")
3. Installed SSH via Independence
4. Reboot
5. Installed INSTALLER.app on iPhone
6. Via the Installer I installed
COMMUNITY SOURCES
BSD SUBSYSTEMS
OPEN SSH
7. via CYBERDUCK I place the anySIM.app in my applications folder
8. Reboot iPhone & replace AT&T SIM with my SIM
9. Start anySIM
10. After I get the comomly known error "Unlock fails" I reboot, but the first thing that pops up:
"SIM LOCKED"

I also tried to use anySIM without any SIM inserted.

I'm a total wreck now, I just don't get what else can I do!

Please help! :-(

Thx & Greetz

Eric

You should actvate with your own sim, not the at&t one.

maskwearer
09-19-2007, 12:49 PM
right from the stat??? Meaning not using the AT&T at all?
also, is it correct to jailbeak the iPhone after activation again, since it has been returned to jail?

schalkse
09-19-2007, 02:41 PM
right from the stat??? Meaning not using the AT&T at all?
also, is it correct to jailbeak the iPhone after activation again, since it has been returned to jail?
Before you start =>>> you get the error "sim locked". That means you need to enter your pincode. Disable pincode of your sim. Because this will give problems with activation and also with AnySim.
Yes, right from the start. If you activate with the AT&T sim, and then pop in your other sim, your iphone will not accept the sim.
So activate using independence 1.2.1, with your sim in it.
If you want installer.app, install apptap.
http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/
Just activate with Indepence, do not jailbreak. Then install apptap and your phone will be jailbroken by apptap. With indepence you need to jailbreak each time you want something on the phone, with apptap not.

Then unlock...

telecommando
09-19-2007, 06:54 PM
Hey all,
I tried to unlock my iPhone 10 times now, and I'm about to throw it out of the window...almost. I tried anySIm as well as SIMfree, which I paid for. The later doesn't work, appearantly my IMEI hasn't been correctly transferred to SIMfree. So I put my hopes on anySIM.
$50 for the person to help me out here! Here's what I did (using a Mac):

Used tools:
iTunes 7.4.2
Independence 1.2.1
Cyberduck
AnyApp

Procedure:
1. Restored my iPhone through iTunes to Firmware 1.0.2
2. Inserted AT&T SIM. Opened Independence and clicked ACTIVATE
(in other attempts I also jailbreaked te phone afterwards, since after activation, the program sets the iPhone "back to jail")
3. Installed SSH via Independence
4. Reboot
5. Installed INSTALLER.app on iPhone
6. Via the Installer I installed
COMMUNITY SOURCES
BSD SUBSYSTEMS
OPEN SSH
7. via CYBERDUCK I place the anySIM.app in my applications folder
8. Reboot iPhone & replace AT&T SIM with my SIM
9. Start anySIM
10. After I get the comomly known error "Unlock fails" I reboot, but the first thing that pops up:
"SIM LOCKED"

I also tried to use anySIM without any SIM inserted.

I'm a total wreck now, I just don't get what else can I do!

Please help! :-(

Thx & Greetz

Eric


With INdependence you can copy anySIM into your phone applications folder - I dunno why you need cyberduck and installer for that.

search for the way I did it - on about page 53 of the GUI unlock thread Similar to you, but easier.

I think you should go back to INdependence now and activate again, this is needed since you just put in the new SIM card - I think this is correct anyways. Don't keep running anySIM or anything - you probably unlocked and just don't realize it right now.

shadowmatt
10-02-2007, 01:18 PM
Ditto. Trash is a very unscrupulous human being. He just needs to do what is right.

He did what is right and purchased a license on your bahalf.

You need to do what is right and shut the f**k up and stop demanding money back because a free version came out.

ale
10-02-2007, 01:49 PM
still talking about this guy? He is not even more one of the glorious ipsf resellers, according to their site ;)

Jonathan20
10-03-2007, 06:07 PM
i have already license isf, if you want contact me ;)

avtcw79
10-09-2007, 08:21 PM
http://aussieiphoneunlock.com/

Beware of beeing ripped of, they distribute a file belonging to this incident:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/breaking/false-hacker-poses-as-iphone-dev-team-unlock-author-tries-to-grab-41560-donation-298473.php

This software is using our unlock AND is not allowed to be distributed for commercial purpouse! Demand your money back from them and don't get yourself fooled with this. It's not released you pay someone for it!

"We have teamed up with a new supplier to bring you the first release Software Unlock for your iPhone
Download the application here - /* link to scam */"

We are not alfianted with this site or person, it's a fake post.

As it seems some of the IPSF reseller started a fraud campaign with our software and HaRRo (read article above). You can find a copy of a further email form another reseller below. If someone is selling you or giving you away our unlock instead, you got frauded! The license of the tool explict forbids sale.
Demand your money back if you not recieved anything. The IPSF deals were made with making $ in mind, it's not our not anyone else fault it didn't last long or even went wrong. If the business went wrong and someone took a high risk out of interest in money it's not your fault. Still keep in mind a reseller does the deal for a nice venue of mathed up a few thousend US$.

As selling the software is explict violating the anti commercial license terms we will talk back to the EFF to see what we can do about this. In the meantime try to get your funds back in the bank.

Mr. can you help me to UNLOCK my iphone please i dont have any idea about this please help me mr. SAM...


Thanks in ADVANCE mr. SAM

shadowmatt
10-11-2007, 09:39 PM
Hang on...

All those people demanding money from Trash because a free one came out are you going to say sorry now IPSF have 1.1.1 unlocking and their version doesnt brick phones, and their version unbricks anysim phones.

lfcohen
10-12-2007, 07:16 AM
Chargeback is the ONLY way to go against them on PayPal. I've tried on a regular complain, only to be told by PayPal I was not covered...as it is an electronic license. A simple 10 minute call to my credit card solved the issue!

thesutex
10-12-2007, 11:56 PM
this is stupid.. i used dev teams unlock and love it! but if you paid for a service, deal with it.. stop whining because some other team came up with free unlocks..

now for the scamming, those people should have their iphones explode in their back pockets ^^

Kaschew89
10-15-2007, 06:30 PM
A word to the wise, if you decide to buy online a licence from one of the reseller make sure the link they send you has the current version of IPSF v1.6 and make sure after you downgraded your phone,jailbreak,etc.. have a good wifi connection i kept getting a lot of error.....