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wlp5
07-22-2008, 03:07 AM
Interesting news on the DRM-cracking front. Apparently SMB has been cracked and can be installed and run without paying for it AND in unsupported countries.

Don't ask me for a link and don't ask or post links to it.

If you're interested, google it, it's the obvious keywords. Also, it involves some ssh-ing and permission changes etc. If you don't know how to do that, stick with appstore or try to learn by searching and reading this forum, please don't post for help to install it.

This was for your information only, mainly regarding the first DRM-crack for the iPhone.

By the way, I bought it and I think it was worth it.

kultschar
07-22-2008, 06:10 AM
Interesting news on the DRM-cracking front. Apparently SMB has been cracked and can be installed and run without paying for it AND in unsupported countries.

Don't ask me for a link and don't ask or post links to it.

If you're interested, google it, it's the obvious keywords. Also, it involves some ssh-ing and permission changes etc. If you don't know how to do that, stick with appstore or try to learn by searching and reading this forum, please don't post for help to install it.

This was for your information only, mainly regarding the first DRM-crack for the iPhone.

By the way, I bought it and I think it was worth it.

Well I dont condone piracy but ive just checked out your info and your right it has indeed been cracked and I just tried it for myself (please dont PM me about it)!!

Personally im not much of a gamer however I dont think I would waste $9.99 on this. The graphics are superb and it really does feel like the "first" proper game for the iphone however it is a bit repetitive after a few goes!

Anyhow I think Apple should give one level demos of their games as I think its a bit much shelling out for something you have not seen on a mobile device!!

Back to Texas Holdem - (I bought this one!)

TwistyValhalla
07-22-2008, 06:21 AM
I knew this'd be done after 2.0 jailbreak but I didn't think it'd be this easy. Sadly this is ultimately bad for us users since a lot of developers will be discouraged because the apps are so easy to crack.

Corvillus
07-22-2008, 06:27 AM
I knew this'd be done after 2.0 jailbreak but I didn't think it'd be this easy. Sadly this is ultimately bad for us users since a lot of developers will be discouraged because the apps are so easy to crack.

Either that or it will make things a pain for unlockers. Now that the apps have been cracked, we might start to see the same type of situation that there is on the PSP, where running the latest apps will require a firmware update at least once a month that does nothing except patch DRM holes. And of course, since they'll do a firmware update, they'll obviously bundle a new baseband, which means you'll need to wait for an unlock and go through the pains of restoring your device every time.

wlp5
07-22-2008, 06:31 AM
Hum, if the firmware update only fixes DRM holes why do it ? The only way to force you would be to require it to access the appstore. But I doubt they'll do that as there no obligation on your part to update every month.

Anyway, from what I understood they haven't found a general method to crack things, I'm guessing it was just a hex-edit of sorts to make the phone think the app is free and listed in someone else's account.

hadimirza
07-22-2008, 07:47 AM
confirmed. it does work by ssh'ing the files onto the iPhone. I bought the app a couple days ago anyways. It's always good to support the developers.

TheSacredSoul
07-22-2008, 10:25 AM
Well its nowhere to be found. All the threads are deleted.

Former Bender
07-22-2008, 10:29 AM
Well its nowhere to be found. All the threads are deleted.

They are and will be, you know the rules i guess. :cool:

TheSacredSoul
07-22-2008, 10:38 AM
They are and will be, you know the rules i guess. :cool:

I know the rules very well but you gotta agree, it is tempting :o

wlp5
07-22-2008, 11:09 AM
Nah, it wasn't deleted on the source. Probably some server problems since they still mention it on their mainpage. Also, it spread out so much in forums it's not hard to find.

My friends back home (unsupported country) to which I bought iphones for in the past year were really happy about it, since they couldn't get it legally.

TheSacredSoul
07-22-2008, 11:21 AM
Nah, it wasn't deleted on the source. Probably some server problems since they still mention it on their mainpage. Also, it spread out so much in forums it's not hard to find.

My friends back home (unsupported country) to which I bought iphones for in the past year were really happy about it, since they couldn't get it legally.

Well, people here in Singapore (UnSupported) figured out how to buy stuff from AppStore. Thats why some people are sad that they should have waited a few more days lol :p

Former Bender
07-22-2008, 11:32 AM
Nah, it wasn't deleted on the source. Probably some server problems since they still mention it on their mainpage. Also, it spread out so much in forums it's not hard to find.

My friends back home (unsupported country) to which I bought iphones for in the past year were really happy about it, since they couldn't get it legally.

[AppStore][Solved] Register to iTunes Store from unsupported countries ? (http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=45446)

You just need to give your credit card number and you're ready to buy.
The problem is people always try to find an excuse to legitimate piracy.

The very same people that were complaining about not free apps on Installer.app.
Saying that they should be free because without the Jailbreak they wouldn't have been possible. Now that the AppStore is out, a lot of devs from the 3rd party apps community have moved to the AppStore and are proposing fairly cheap apps and the very same people who complained now are rushing to download them.

(wlp5 before you get it wrong: i'm not directing this to you ;) )

They seem to forget that nothing is free when you need to feed your family. :(

falcon212
07-22-2008, 11:58 AM
Well, people here in Singapore (UnSupported) figured out how to buy stuff from AppStore. Thats why some people are sad that they should have waited a few more days lol :p
are you talking about me? :p

coadyj
07-22-2008, 12:05 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a little thing called google catch???

And as for the point of developers moving to the app store, Well knock yourselfs out, im not going to buy a lame app like "magic 8 ball" when i used the free one, and it was crap

I have no problems donating to developer who make application that i like. if fact i have given over $220 in donations since i bought my iphone, but the apps i donate to are the ones that i thing are good.

PC delelopment has gone that way of "free (with donations)", Look at the likes of vuze or xbmc, both killer apps worth 1000 times more then monkey balls, and free. Im just glad the hacking comunity is ahead of the corpurations.

Steve Jobs is insane, all the bullshit he comes out with like "most apps will be free" (feb keynote 2008), now it looks like you have to pay for most apps even the crappy tidbits that were free on installer.

spaceman81
07-22-2008, 12:10 PM
yup. i hope ppl don't start pirating apps from the appstore as it would definitely discourage developers from further improving on their apps.

On a separate note, have you guys noticed the amount of shitty apps in the appstore? And I don't mead apps that are buggy but genuinely shitty apps (e.g. love guru, etc). Apple should not only filter based on security and stuff but also based on common sense. I'm worried that the appstore would be cluttered by these dumb applications.

They also need to do something about apps that require payment and are similar to free ones. If there is an existing app on the appstore (i.e. flashlight) that works fine and is free, they should just reject the same app that requires payment unless the app for sale has superior features/functionality.

Oh well.. back to browsing the appstore :P

wlp5
07-22-2008, 12:12 PM
[AppStore][Solved] Register to iTunes Store from unsupported countries ? (http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=45446)

You just need to give your credit card number and you're ready to buy.
(

Off topic but are you certain about this ? Because I helped one do the registration thing but we didn't have any luck trying to put in a non-US card and buy something, only the free stuff. Maybe we should try it again.

I'm not seeing things black or white about piracy. I'm in the computer business and although I don't work on that anymore I built software for money in the past. My views can be summarized in the following. If you can buy it, you should buy it. If you can't buy it, it's ok to get it for free as long as you really can't buy it , and I don't mean just for being in unsupported countries. If I was a developer, I would send out free codes to anyone that emailed me and explained they couldn't buy my stuff because they were too poor or a student etc. But that's just me and I have downloaded software I had no intention in buying but I never really made any use of it.

FreshFruit
07-22-2008, 12:20 PM
and even thw little shit cost up to 10 bucks! If you programm a nice tool ok but price has to be in relation with programm. Of Apple rushes More with approving more tools the market will regulate it. Now its slightly out of control.
For my part i dont put cracked soft in my phone and Log in with my Apple is with all the Personal Info . Thats dumm

simonmullan
07-22-2008, 02:02 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a little thing called google catch???



What the hell is google catch?

macaron3
07-22-2008, 02:09 PM
google cache

TheSacredSoul
07-22-2008, 02:58 PM
are you talking about me? :p

In fact, I am :D

kultschar
07-22-2008, 03:22 PM
To be honest I think this monkey ball hack may be a one off - I dont thinkt hey are having any luck with other apps so maybe it was a short oversight somewhere by the developers!

I have to agree though about a commment above - Apple need to reject filter out the crappy free apps - there are now far too many shitty list apps and crap like that cluttering up the store. It takes far too long to browse and get down to some decent apps. I think a demo would be good too e.g. I was about to fork out $15 for a gym app but luckily a review right down the bottom says it only fully functional if you have wifi in the gym!!

Super Monkey ball is not my thing but it shows the potential of this device and I can imagine Sega & EA will have some real cool stuff on it soon!

coadyj
07-22-2008, 03:47 PM
What the hell is google catch?

google catch lets you see websites that might have been taken down. When you are searching for the form as to where the app can be downloaded, most of them have been deleted, but catch lets you see them again.

Former Bender
07-22-2008, 03:51 PM
He might wanted to say Google Cache.

You can also use web.archive.org

macaron3
07-22-2008, 04:15 PM
To be honest I think this monkey ball hack may be a one off - I dont thinkt hey are having any luck with other apps so maybe it was a short oversight somewhere by the developers!

You're wrong. I've already tried another application with success. If you've got a jailbreaked iPhone, then all you need to do is SSH the application to the phone. It's that easy. iTunes is not involved at all.

dmod
07-22-2008, 04:50 PM
To be honest I think this monkey ball hack may be a one off - I dont thinkt hey are having any luck with other apps so maybe it was a short oversight somewhere by the developers!

I have to agree though about a commment above - Apple need to reject filter out the crappy free apps - there are now far too many shitty list apps and crap like that cluttering up the store. It takes far too long to browse and get down to some decent apps. I think a demo would be good too e.g. I was about to fork out $15 for a gym app but luckily a review right down the bottom says it only fully functional if you have wifi in the gym!!

Super Monkey ball is not my thing but it shows the potential of this device and I can imagine Sega & EA will have some real cool stuff on it soon!

The application was patched to ignore SHA1 sum checking, so I doubt this is a one off. Do a hex compare on the original versus the patched and you will find some interesting stuff!

It's a shame that this is going to become widespread, but I do think apple kindof brought it on themselves by not allowing people to try the apps before they buy them. I know I have been burned a few times spending money on absolute garbage in the AppStore.

Cocchiararo
07-22-2008, 05:56 PM
dont they need to buy the app at least ONCE to "have" it so they can crack it ?
they are "kinda" kind :P

kultschar
07-22-2008, 05:58 PM
You're wrong. I've already tried another application with success. If you've got a jailbreaked iPhone, then all you need to do is SSH the application to the phone. It's that easy. iTunes is not involved at all.

Oh dear - bit strange its that easy!! Then again I guess this is a tiny fraction of iphone users doing this so maybe Apple aint bothered?

coadyj
07-22-2008, 06:44 PM
He might wanted to say Google Cache.

You can also use web.archive.org


web archive doesnt update daily

So, this work with other app, silly steve jobs. I though it might be this easy, so it seems like there will be a few hacked software repos comming, Cant say im upset or anything. :)

jashsayani
07-22-2008, 06:55 PM
I knew that cracking AppStore apps would be reality. But not to soon.... :p

Soon there will be websites with all cracked apps ! Something like Pirate AppStore :D

gotschi
07-22-2008, 07:27 PM
You're wrong. I've already tried another application with success. If you've got a jailbreaked iPhone, then all you need to do is SSH the application to the phone. It's that easy. iTunes is not involved at all.

that´s wrong... the appstore apps are signed!

Compare the cracked super monkey ball with the original (hex) then you'll see that they disabled the SHA1 check somehow...

and a Pirate App store would just be scary...

netkas
07-22-2008, 07:32 PM
You're wrong. I've already tried another application with success. If you've got a jailbreaked iPhone, then all you need to do is SSH the application to the phone. It's that easy. iTunes is not involved at all.

bullshit

it's possible only if u bought this app already

appstore apps is encrypted and will not be decrypted by kernel on iphone which didn't buy app

iHack
07-22-2008, 09:05 PM
bullshit

it's possible only if u bought this app already

appstore apps is encrypted and will not be decrypted by kernel on iphone which didn't buy app

There are plenty who have confirmed as they are "crackable" and are "working"...

kultschar
07-22-2008, 09:20 PM
bullshit

it's possible only if u bought this app already

appstore apps is encrypted and will not be decrypted by kernel on iphone which didn't buy app


Yep it def works as I played it for a bit yesterday!!

You need to download the specific cracked copy that is doing the rounds - then SSH into your iphone and drop it into your apps folder - set permissions then your good to go!!

netkas
07-22-2008, 09:30 PM
monkey ball is just decrypted, no other decrypted apps i saw

speedy523
07-22-2008, 09:51 PM
bullshit

it's possible only if u bought this app already

appstore apps is encrypted and will not be decrypted by kernel on iphone which didn't buy app

i agree, i dont think macaron3 actually got another app, i think he just SSH one of the apps he already bought onto the phone to see if it worked, and it would, since all the signatures would check out since he did buy it originally.

macaron3
07-23-2008, 02:07 AM
i agree, i dont think macaron3 actually got another app, i think he just SSH one of the apps he already bought onto the phone to see if it worked, and it would, since all the signatures would check out since he did buy it originally.

I've got several apps. Didn't buy a single one. But you're right. I made the post before testing. I only see the loading screen on all apps, then they crash.

BTW. This is the guy that cracked SMB
http://tysiphonehelp.webs.com/index.htm?blogentryid=3739159 (note: no download links from that page)

netkas
07-23-2008, 02:45 AM
it's not him ;)

i saw torrent for SMB on vortex network 2 days ago(it existed only 30 mins) , it was hmmm...20 june, and his post is from 22 june.

guess we will never know name of hacker who did it. he seems to be secure.

TheSacredSoul
07-23-2008, 06:44 PM
it's not him ;)

i saw torrent for SMB on vortex network 2 days ago(it existed only 30 mins) , it was hmmm...20 june, and his post is from 22 june.

guess we will never know name of hacker who did it. he seems to be secure.

Probably Chinese though ;)

ChronicProductions
07-23-2008, 09:12 PM
This is NOT a crack. It is just a workaround that apple neglected would work because they didn't expect a jailbreak and wil probably be fixed in 2.0.1

hate to be a party pooper but its just the truth

andre402
07-24-2008, 12:38 AM
[AppStore][Solved] Register to iTunes Store from unsupported countries ? (http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=45446)

You just need to give your credit card number and you're ready to buy.
The problem is people always try to find an excuse to legitimate piracy.

The very same people that were complaining about not free apps on Installer.app.
Saying that they should be free because without the Jailbreak they wouldn't have been possible. Now that the AppStore is out, a lot of devs from the 3rd party apps community have moved to the AppStore and are proposing fairly cheap apps and the very same people who complained now are rushing to download them.

(wlp5 before you get it wrong: i'm not directing this to you ;) )

They seem to forget that nothing is free when you need to feed your family. :(

Your words are golden but are missing some information. How come have you succeeded to register non-US credit card in the iTunes store? The thread you pointed at has no instructions for it. I live in unsupported country and I would really like to buy the "Texas Hold'em" app as soon as I get my credit card working. Instructions, please!

netkas
07-24-2008, 12:46 AM
This is NOT a crack. It is just a workaround that apple neglected would work because they didn't expect a jailbreak and wil probably be fixed in 2.0.1

hate to be a party pooper but its just the truth

U are wrong.

go learn apps encryption.

yokken
07-24-2008, 09:02 AM
I wish I had waited for THIS.

mr.sudoku
07-25-2008, 02:28 AM
This tutorial will teach you how to open the access to all the 105 levels in the iPhone Super Monkey Ball games. This tutorial requires your iPhone, iPod Touch to be jailbroken,have OpenSSH installed in Cydia

*Download statebin : http://iphoneapptweak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/statebin.zip
* Extract state.bin from the zip file, and upload it to/var/mobile/Documents/ use OpenSSH
* Change the permission of state.bin to 775 or 0775 depends on the SSH client you are using (if the previous number is 3 digits use 775, 4 digits use 0775)
* If it doesn’t work, copy state.bin to /user/Documents/, and also change the permission.
* Now play Super Monkey Ball again, you will see that you have access to all 105 levels!

Note:Reset the high score if the game crashes
Also, if the game crashes during loading screen, please restart the iPhone.

yokken
07-25-2008, 06:27 AM
Just for mods, the post above me, as far as I'm concerned, does not link to piracy, warez, none of that. Even for me, someone who has bought SMB, I'd like that. I really don't want to go through all the frustration to play those levels. In fact, I probably won't ever play SMB again because of how frustrated it made me.

But yeah.

netkas
07-25-2008, 06:44 AM
When savegames became illegal ?

heh

yokken
07-25-2008, 08:42 AM
When savegames became illegal ?

heh

Perhaps when they allow you to softmod your Xbox? :D

g.c.
07-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Hmm... people are that cheap I guess. Everyone wants apps but is not willing to pay. If there is an app your want pay for it, and if it's free then fine. Don't rip the developer off. I'm sure SMB took a long time to develop and $10 is pretty cheap if you ask me. If you can't afford it then too bad. If you can't afford a new car do you just go and steal one? This is ridiculous. It's stealing.

As for the access to all the levels. That seems perfectly fine to me. In fact I might even use that tutorial. The game is extremely hard after a point.

kultschar
07-25-2008, 03:07 PM
Hmm... people are that cheap I guess. Everyone wants apps but is not willing to pay. If there is an app your want pay for it, and if it's free then fine. Don't rip the developer off. I'm sure SMB took a long time to develop and $10 is pretty cheap if you ask me. If you can't afford it then too bad. If you can't afford a new car do you just go and steal one? This is ridiculous. It's stealing.

As for the access to all the levels. That seems perfectly fine to me. In fact I might even use that tutorial. The game is extremely hard after a point.

I agree

Cmon if you can afford an iPhone then you can afford an app!

idane
07-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Hmm... people are that cheap I guess. Everyone wants apps but is not willing to pay. If there is an app your want pay for it, and if it's free then fine. Don't rip the developer off. I'm sure SMB took a long time to develop and $10 is pretty cheap if you ask me. If you can't afford it then too bad. If you can't afford a new car do you just go and steal one? This is ridiculous. It's stealing.

I just wanted to say that the world of piracy is not as clear cut as you might make it seem. Where in the "real world", where, if you take something from a store, there were people who paid for it and thus they incur a loss, whereas when you download software which you would otherwise not purchase causes no damages to anyone. I am all for buying software (I'm a sw engineer - it's in my interest :)) when it's something that you would have purchased if you couldn't pirate it. But if it's something that you really wouldn't buy (e.g. a professional video editing app, which costs way too much for home use), downloading it causes no damages to anyone.

Regarding Monkey ball - I bought it. Regarding games in general - there are a lot of great games that I downloaded pirated versions of, and once I saw that the game was worth it, I went and invested in the game, and if it wasn't worth it, I deleted it - why keep a crap game?

Don't brand people who use pirated sw as thiefs - most piracy is not "lost revenue" and therefor doesn't cause any damage to the publishers.

Peace out,
IdanE

kultschar
07-25-2008, 09:05 PM
I just wanted to say that the world of piracy is not as clear cut as you might make it seem. Where in the "real world", where, if you take something from a store, there were people who paid for it and thus they incur a loss, whereas when you download software which you would otherwise not purchase causes no damages to anyone. I am all for buying software (I'm a sw engineer - it's in my interest :)) when it's something that you would have purchased if you couldn't pirate it. But if it's something that you really wouldn't buy (e.g. a professional video editing app, which costs way too much for home use), downloading it causes no damages to anyone.

Regarding Monkey ball - I bought it. Regarding games in general - there are a lot of great games that I downloaded pirated versions of, and once I saw that the game was worth it, I went and invested in the game, and if it wasn't worth it, I deleted it - why keep a crap game?

Don't brand people who use pirated sw as thiefs - most piracy is not "lost revenue" and therefor doesn't cause any damage to the publishers.

Peace out,
IdanE


Your argument is flawed in many ways

" But if it's something that you really wouldn't buy (e.g. a professional video editing app, which costs way too much for home use), downloading it causes no damages to anyone"

Of course it damages the software company. Adobe Photoshop is everywhere on Torrents - this is expensive software hence its damaging the software company as simply its easier not to buy it these days. If 5 million people have hacked versions of photoshop then that is a lot of revenue lost as im sure a tiny percentage e.g. say 2% would prob buy it if there was no pirate version in existance.

I really don't think peoiple are as honest about games like yourself!! Just because you download a pirate game and then go out and buy the original does not mean the other 99% do this!!

In fact I cant imagine why anybody would waste money on an original copy if the pirate version works!! I know alot of people who download the latest games and they do this because its simply FREE!! Im afraid that is the real reason for Pirating films/Music/Games - its simply free or low cost hence the people who made it are simply losing a fortune!!

Go to some parts of Asia a few years ago and then tell me if Priacy is not effecting software companies/Film Studios. In fact when I was there in the 90's it was impossible to buy authentic copies of anything, Stores simply did not bother getting them in and flogging the latest copy of windows for $100 when the 50 shops in the same mall were selling it for $1 on a blank CD - DVD. CDs and DVDs were in abundance for pennies with the latest stuff on them!!

ChronicProductions
07-25-2008, 10:08 PM
netkas i know what u r talking about i think u misinterpreted my post

dtube
07-25-2008, 10:22 PM
So ... is this game hacked or cracked ? ?

hacking = legal
cracking = not legal

were there changes in SMB binaries ?

dmod
07-25-2008, 11:03 PM
So ... is this game hacked or cracked ? ?

hacking = legal
cracking = not legal

were there changes in SMB binaries ?

Though I don't necessarily agree with your categorizations, SMB has definitely been cracked. The app was signed with a different certificate (not the official Apple signing authority) and the DRM was bypassed. There are quite a bit of people who know how to do this, but many of them prefer not to release the method because of stake in the app store (maybe even someone posting in this thread ;)).

dtube
07-25-2008, 11:19 PM
Oh.. that's just my simple generalization of it. The reason I am asking is because time & time we see people post link to crack/piracy stuff.

This forum has to stay clean. Period !!!.
You can talk about it but no links...

In this thread, it is difficult to tell what it is in terms of legality purposes. I hope someone who know more about this can tell me.

ChronicProductions
07-26-2008, 08:26 PM
nvm netkas is right. damn cracking apps is kind of like cracking img3...not as hard, but the decryption method lol

hope it doesn't get published...i mean, for the sake of the people that crack apps of course :)

n350z
07-27-2008, 11:00 PM
leo037 (http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/member.php?u=38148): your post has been deleted because

We don't allow links to cracked software on the boards

Thanks

Gibberish
07-30-2008, 08:46 AM
I live in unsupported country and I would really like to buy the "Texas Hold'em" app as soon as I get my credit card working. Instructions, please!

You can purchase an iTunes card thru eBay. Lots of people from a foreign country do that. Good luck.

ABuNeNe
08-09-2008, 04:03 AM
Anyone got it working on 1.1.4? This the error I'm getting if I try to run it manually.


$ ./Monkey\ Ball
dyld: Library not loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore
Referenced from: /private/var/mobile/Applications/Monkey Ball.app/./Monkey Ball
Reason: image not found
zsh: trace trap ./Monkey\ Ball
$


Think there's a library missing, anyway to install this on a 1.1.4? Also the app icon is a question mark, anyone can upload the correct one?

Rohanster
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Anyone got it working on 1.1.4? This the error I'm getting if I try to run it manually.


$ ./Monkey\ Ball
dyld: Library not loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore
Referenced from: /private/var/mobile/Applications/Monkey Ball.app/./Monkey Ball
Reason: image not found
zsh: trace trap ./Monkey\ Ball
$


Think there's a library missing, anyway to install this on a 1.1.4? Also the app icon is a question mark, anyone can upload the correct one?

looks like you have the monkey ball.app folder in the wrong area, I made this mistake as well.. it needs to be in the /private/applications i think it was. If you dont see folders for your other applications in that are, you're in the wrong directory.

Also make sure your permissions are set correctly

SlantSix
08-21-2008, 11:15 AM
This is interesting I wonder how far they can go with this? What happens with app updates and all that stuff?