[Snow Leopard] Coming out any time soon?

[thefalloftroy]

I'm planning on buying a macbook this summer, but if snow leopard is coming out soon (early 2009) I'll just wait, can someone confirm the date or something? thanks.

[jashsayani]

It will release at MacWorld Expo 2009.

[f41qu3]

No has officially dates.

[sergeydgr8]

It has been rumoured that SL will be released in October 2009.:finder:

[Bigjake52]

Yea I bought My mac book IN may and Love it. But No I would Not wait. The Os Would Be about 150 US Thats Not Bad to say. But I am just going to stay with Leo

[mroofka_Z]

I'm planning on buying a macbook this summer, but if snow leopard is coming out soon (early 2009) I'll just wait, can someone confirm the date or something? thanks.

Well... Since Intel is going to provide some new CPUs in 2010 i think they WILL wait with the kitty. Why? Well... the new CPUs will have something like Velocity Engine in PowerPCs and there will be at leaset 8 cores on single processor. But there are also new GPU chips coming in, 24 or 36 cores, yeah. Also by intel. I heard some rumors thatApple is going to abuse intel for AMD, but this is not true. So, since they will not develop system optimized for these Sandy Bridge (?) processrs (SB is something like the velocity engine...) they can optimize Snow Leo for them.

But, as the SL is going to use the power of GPU as CPU, and Intel is going to ship these multicore GPUs in 2009, maybe they wil release SL in late 2009. But the new Intel technology is going to be a breakethrough and I think the OS XI should be preparded for all their power. But we still have to wait for 4 more versions until XI.

[Adrian Fogge]

There is no reason that Snow Leopard couldn't be optimized for the Sandy Bridge Micro-Architecture or the Advanced Vector Extension set or the later planed Fused Multiply-Add set as the specifications for both have been published for some time.

One of the key enhancements to Snow Leopard is Grand Central, or the ability to handle many CPU and GPU cores. While it would not be trivial to add support for these additional instruction sets, it is very possible as Apple has already proven that it is capable of doing.

I do completely agree with your assertion that Snow Leopard will likely be released mid-late 2009, however given the stage of development that has been shown in the single Development Seed, very few are really expecting a MacWorld '09 Release.

Additionally, with the level of changes that are taking place at the core of the OS, requiring dramatic changes to KEXTs and the like for many applications and the dependency on getting OpenCL fully working and supported in applications prior to the release, a release at WWDC'09 Also seems pretty unrealistic.

If anything, I would personally expect us to see something within a month of WWDC'09 to October '09.

~Adrian

[jeeper01ca]

There is no official release date yet, it is for the best for Apple to sell more O/S 10.5 today, instead of having clients wait for the new O/S and lose the sale.

I was waiting to get 10.5 since December, but I was working in a country where they use PC 99%, so buying Mac's O/S was kind of impossible and now that I am back home, I am gonna spend $150, because I believe the new one will be released by the end of the year.

[Adrian Fogge]

There really is no dispute that it is in apple's best interests to make more money right now, and that is one of those big reasons why they don't give out dates very far in advance, and new products just show up in stores one day.

However, Snow Leopard still has a very long way to go before it is released. It took quite some time to get Leopard from It's first WWDC preview to it's release.

It seems surprising that people seem to think that it's going to be out by Christmas when the majority of Apple's Developer Connection members haven't even been able to obtain a copy through legitimate channels.

People just need to sit back, calm down and be happy with what they have and thank god that it's not Vista.

~Adrian

[Beab]

It has been rumoured that SL will be released in October 2009.:finder:

I've heard that as well.

[Adrian Fogge]

I heard that you simply took the initial release date of 10.5 and added 730 days to come up with that figure...

~Adrian

[AppleInsider]

It'll be out in 2009, probably Q2 since thats when the internal SourceCache Doc cut off is.

[alokw]

anyone know if the new file system will be compatible with ntfs or fat32?

[Adrian Fogge]

What are you talking about, Alokw?

Filesystems are not "compatible" with other file systems; Kernels are.

Even now, there is no *official* support for HFS+ in Windows, however there is in Linux. There is MacDrive which allows Windows to have Read / Write access to HFS+ Partitions.

There is no *official* support for ZFS in Windows, either however there is usermode filesystem support in Linux if you want to load it yourself.

OS X Can read NTFS and write to FAT32 partitions out of the box, and can get write-access to NTFS partitions.

[trouble.tribbles]

the real question...
will it still support PPC?

[f41qu3]

In new mach_kernel has PPC support, but Apple doesn't tell that have support for it.

[george_6666]

Any updates on SnowLeopard ?

[Adrian Fogge]

No updates yet...
The last public info that has been released about it was in the launchd changelog from Sept. 17. Apparently the build at the time was 10A127.

As things sit right now, there haven't been any updates to the changelog for the past 8 days.

Definitely have to say that I am a little shocked and slightly disappointed that here we are 3 1/2 months post WWDC and there still haven't been any Snow Leopard updates, or even a single Snow Leopard releases to paid ADC members.

I am wondering if maybe Apple has adopted their iPhone Developer Seeding philosophy across the board and will only be giving "Pre-Release" information to certain ADC members. If that truly is the case, then I am certain that I won't be the only one canceling my account and returning to a free account.

~Adrian