[iPhone 3G] Will 3G iPhone Sell more or Less?

[idavid]

After all the drama Apple and ATT are going about 3G iPhone, the question is will 3G iPhone sell more or less?

The point to sell at less price $199 doesn't make more people to sign the 2year high priced contract.


My view is that it will sell less and other manufacturers (Nokia, Blackberry) will have enough time to join the race. It going to a clear disadvantage to Apple.

Your opinions please...

[LiTos]

i beleive it will sell less...i mean reallly, they dont let you out without a contract. how great is that?

[balboula_85]

well noone will know the outcome of this , if there is a bypass for the contract stage in iphone3g purchase it will be a major hit like 1st gen , if its a noway getting the thing out of here without a contract, then it will fail in relation to 1st gen.

or.... people will go into the "matter over mind" frenzy purchasing it with the contract just because they are hardcore fans of the iphone !

[BImmelicous]

i think they will sell a ot more than the first gen.
The iphone is for for the "manager"-types of us, not for the prepaid 02 user. and the new prices are too hot. i used a first gen on 02 in germany. i sold it and i will change to t-bomile germany (exclusive carrier here). i want the full support und not again that hack shit... i think im iphone addicted...

[LiTos]

well at least some of european countries have tmobile to use with iphone. lucky!

[mysticusa]

some countries have cleverer solutions... and not so strict price policy...

and you can even get it free for example in UK :) if you choose good plan... and plans are not so bad compared to US... (in us mins in your plan includes also incalls as well which makes it ridiculous) so plans like UK O2 will work, and O2 is usually more friendlier than other carriers... and I m sure they will bring an unlock solution as well for a fee... which they do after a year... and contract term is for 18 months opposed to usa 24 months... price for iphone in basic tarriffs is also not bad either almost exact conversion opposed to initial launch's ridiculous prices... so it will definetely be a selling point for O2... the only obstacle will be is for people who are already on a contract... which will delay the buying dates... bcoz iphone requires new contract... thats teh only down side right now...

on the other hand... from experience I can tell apple is gonna bring another iphone model b4 the year end... :) Apple has right now two launch occasions for iphone... one for initial 20 countries? and one for 70 countries? so indicating that there are gonna be some changes both in software and product... as you all know right now, (if not changed b4 the release date) iphone doesnt have front camera nor any info said it will yet... also some other features for media/ and tech related advancements are not said to be coming either? which indicates very parallel to apple's normal strategy... put it out to market with some features missing, milk the early adapters and that put another product with the added features and milk more...

One thing I know that will work is if apple decides to release a fee based unlock solution and/or carrier independent iphones... otherwise, apple still wont meet its target and its strategy will suck big time... they have much bigger potentials, but steve-0 has old school strategies... people love to change their phones every year or so... in general, but not same with the networks... if you force them to do so, you have have unique offers... otherwise it is backfiring everywhere... so why try to reinvent the wheel? :)

cheers...

[romenator]

O2 is reporting that 4 times as many people have registered their interest in iphone 3g than those who pre-registered for iphone1.

[Marwanie]

O2 is reporting that 4 times as many people have registered their interest in iphone 3g than those who pre-registered for iphone1.

Reason: iPhone on PAYG.

[LiTos]

exactly. people who use PAYG can sell it to people in the US. i hope.

[mysticusa]

exactly. people who use PAYG can sell it to people in the US. i hope.

lol looks like history is reversing :) usa was selling to europe, now europe will sell usa :) revenge time... sell no more than 100-150GBP profit see how it feels like when they did the same blood sucking parasites... now what comes around goes around :) :D

[romenator]

lol looks like history is reversing :) usa was selling to europe, now europe will sell usa :) revenge time... sell no more than 100-150GBP profit see how it feels like when they did the same blood sucking parasites... now what comes around goes around :) :D
LOL absolutely. Time to get USA to pay back what they did to UK following the 2nd world war.

.....With Interest.


For those who don't have a clue what i am talking about, a brief history lesson: During the 2nd world war, USA provided UK with money/ammunition etc to fight off the Nazis. As soon as the war was over, USA wanted UK to pay back the debt, and i think UK only finished paying the debt a few years ago. This meant, after the war, UK economy was far worse than what it was during the war (food rationing came into place etc).

[idavid]

Not really guys!! You can buy the iPhone without contract, but it will be priced way high $700. So if you still think of ebaying and profiting it would be around $900, and nobody would buy for that price.

In USA the only problem now be that you have to sign a 2 Year contract, but after 1 month cancel the service and pay ETF will cost you iPhone less than $500. USA ebayer's will profit more and more likely you yourself may buy one, but there won't be huge supply like the V1.0 version iPhone.

So basically USA ineligible customers (Drug dealers, Cash dealers, Illegal dealers) will not be able to get the hands on it.





LOL absolutely. Time to get USA to pay back what they did to UK following the 2nd world war.

.....With Interest.


For those who don't have a clue what i am talking about, a brief history lesson: During the 2nd world war, USA provided UK with money/ammunition etc to fight off the Nazis. As soon as the war was over, USA wanted UK to pay back the debt, and i think UK only finished paying the debt a few years ago. This meant, after the war, UK economy was far worse than what it was during the war (food rationing came into place etc).

[mysticusa]

Not really guys!! You can buy the iPhone without contract, but it will be priced way high $700. So if you still think of ebaying and profiting it would be around $900, and nobody would buy for that price.

In USA the only problem now be that you have to sign a 2 Year contract, but after 1 month cancel the service and pay ETF will cost you iPhone less than $500. USA ebayer's will profit more and more likely you yourself may buy one, but there won't be huge supply like the V1.0 version iPhone.

So basically USA ineligible customers (Drug dealers, Cash dealers, Illegal dealers) will not be able to get the hands on it.

the problem with what you are saying is that you wont be able to cancel the contract w/o returning the iphone... thats the new rule :) haha and i dont think att will do any unlocked solution in usa!!! and no cheap tarrifs and if bought seperate it will cost probably as much as you mentioned, so it will make uk iphones (159GBP=~300USD) more attractive... in any chance i hope uk sellers gonna milk the USA customers big time this time, bcoz of what they did with initial iphones... blood sucking cockroches :)

[wdelisi]

the problem with what you are saying is that you wont be able to cancel the contract w/o returning the iphone... thats the new rule :)

There is no way AT&T can MAKE you return the phone! I activated serivce yesterday and LOST my phone! WHAT CAN THEY DO?? There will be so many law suits toward AT&T it would be ridiculous!!

[LiTos]

im thinking about getting the contract and then canceling it. it would be $200+50+175. I hope i can get enough money...

[HDub]

the time draws near...this will be an intresting episode in the ever growing empire that is ATT / APPLE

[thecompkid]

The first gen iPhone was, at its core, a high-end phone. The 3G iPhone is much more of a mainstream phone, and that alone is going to ensure solid sales.

There are tons of people who have never paid more than $100 for a cell phone because of carrier subsidies. For them, $600 wasn't even an option, $400 was still overpriced, but $200 is probably something they would go for. Apple, IMO, played the first year perfectly, first creating the image that the iphone is an expensive luxury phone, then incrementally dropping the price.

It can only be a good thing, though, as Apple will be serving a tougher crowd. Maybe we'll finally get MMS, A2DP and video recording as these are all things that any mainstream phone is expected to have.

[DJ McG]

There must be a way to get the iPhone 3G without signing a contract in the store, if there isnt then there is no way to give the iPhone 3G as a gift, unless you give cash or an Apple Gift Card. Unless Apple does some sort of Certificate saying take this to an Apple or AT&T store and redeem for your iPhone 3G, which I think is highly unlikely. Just my two cents.

[LiTos]

well if we do the 30 day thing it will be just 25 dollars more than the prince of the original iphone. seems fair to me..

[romenator]

well if we do the 30 day thing it will be just 25 dollars more than the prince of the original iphone. seems fair to me..
Provided an unlock is available :)

I agree with thecompkid, the new iphone is nothing special as there are new phones that operate in similar way (Samsung tocco etc), which are available free on a 12 month contract from about £20/month (If you can haggle). The new sony ericsson is an amazing phone (C902) had a play on a vodafone mobile internet promoting event, it is really slim (As slim as the sony ericsson w880i, but with amazing camera, and 3G internet, the screen is tiny, but its also free around £20-25/month).

So, I'm not sure if it will sell more.

[mysticusa]

There is no way AT&T can MAKE you return the phone! I activated serivce yesterday and LOST my phone! WHAT CAN THEY DO?? There will be so many law suits toward AT&T it would be ridiculous!!

than they can charge you their price paid for subsidization? not that hard to figure out... since they are also paying for it... they will want their money back!unless yo buy an insurance policy with it... you will have to pay more :)if i can think this much, think of what they can imagine...

[idavid]

than they can charge you their price paid for subsidization?...

The rule of AT&T ETF works something like this active contracts 0-6months $175, 6-12moths $125 and 12-24months $50

I think AT&T can come up with this type of method to charge on the iPhone device.