[FIDO] will carry iPhone too in Canada, wanna guess the price of the plan?

[yogi799]

http://www.fido.ca/portal/promos/personal/iphone/en/promotion.jsp

I bet no less than 75 CAD/month.

Anyone?

[TwistyValhalla]

Maybe it's time to finally put those fido dollars to use. Anybody know if they'll require people to sign the contract before you can actually buy it? It'd be nice just to buy the phone without signing a contract and then be able to unlock it with winpwn.

[sharkus]

I'd expect the plan to be the same price as the one from Rogers, simply as Fido is owned by Rogers and I can't seem themselves offering a lower price from another part of the same company.

Hopefully they'll give the plan information out within the next week. I'm hoping they do have an unlimited data on whatever plan you get. Heck, if it's limited-unlimited to say 3GB per month, I think I'd be ok with that. Main reason for me not already having a 1st Gen iPhone is the horrible pricing of data plans. something like $30 for 25MB of data per month, and that is their restructured pricing too, it used to be even more expensive.

[rte]

well, the price of the plan will be the same or very close to the one from rogers, simply because it is the same company. Now you can get 1Gb data plan for 75$CAD on top of your talk plan, well hopefully this is going to change. Also I really hope they will not make you sign a contract for data plan (I can't see that being less then 100$ per month with minimum talk plan). I'm quite happy with my fido to fido/rogers plan right now and don't really have the need for data plan with all the wifi around. But what is the point of speculating, we shell see soon enough. Also, do not forget that rogers/fido is the ONLY GSM provider in Canada, so they can charge whatever they want for the data plan.

[TATANKA]

In terms of pricing, Rogers has released that iPhone 3G units will be selling for $199 for the 8GB and $299 for the 16GB models, on a 3 year contract term. Fido just recently confirmed these same numbers too.

As for specific voice and data plans, if Rogers emulates AT&T in the USA, expect to pay $39/month for voice and $30 for 3G data. That equals roughly $70/month for iPhone 3G, plus taxes and the ever-so-lovely System Access Fee. Over three years, your iPhone at AT&T rates will cost you:

$199 (8GB) x 1.13 (GST/PST in BC) = $224.87

Voice/Data: $70 + 6.95 SAF + 1.13% = $86.95

$86.95 x 36 months = $3130.20 + $224.87 = $3355.07

So hypothetically speaking, an 8GB iPhone 3G from Rogers or Fido, based on AT&T USA’s pricing would work out to almost $3400CDN after 3 years, or about $94/month. What can you buy with $3400.

[Polish-Boi]

In terms of pricing, Rogers has released that iPhone 3G units will be selling for $199 for the 8GB and $299 for the 16GB models, on a 3 year contract term. Fido just recently confirmed these same numbers too.

As for specific voice and data plans, if Rogers emulates AT&T in the USA, expect to pay $39/month for voice and $30 for 3G data. That equals roughly $70/month for iPhone 3G, plus taxes and the ever-so-lovely System Access Fee. Over three years, your iPhone at AT&T rates will cost you:

$199 (8GB) x 1.13 (GST/PST in BC) = $224.87

Voice/Data: $70 + 6.95 SAF + 1.13% = $86.95

$86.95 x 36 months = $3130.20 + $224.87 = $3355.07

So hypothetically speaking, an 8GB iPhone 3G from Rogers or Fido, based on AT&T USA’s pricing would work out to almost $3400CDN after 3 years, or about $94/month. What can you buy with $3400.


if you think of it that way then you'll never buy anything.

[romenator]

if you think of it that way then you'll never buy anything.
Well said.

[Polish-Boi]

Well said.

haha its true cause if u add up everything your spending money for well then..... its gonna add up pretty fast.

[yogi799]

I have to agree as well... Just realized I will spend close to 8k on gas over the next two years... I quit driving today.

No, seriously, in Canada it will be a three year plan (can't we ever match anything done by the americans, or we're always destined to be the loser?), so I wouldn't be surpised if the price wasn't dramatically higher than in US (for that one extra year), so maybe 60-65 CAD/month?

Wishful thinking... It's gonna be 70-75 CAD for sure! Let's place bets! :D

[Polish-Boi]

I have to agree as well... Just realized I will spend close to 8k on gas over the next two years... I quit driving today.

No, seriously, in Canada it will be a three year plan (can't we ever match anything done by the americans, or we're always destined to be the loser?), so I wouldn't be surpised if the price wasn't dramatically higher than in US (for that one extra year), so maybe 60-65 CAD/month?

Wishful thinking... It's gonna be 70-75 CAD for sure! Let's place bets! :D



hahah i like the first part.. maybe we should stop paying for our mortgage holy crap so much money goes into that :P :p

[romenator]

I have to agree as well... Just realized I will spend close to 8k on gas over the next two years... I quit driving today.

No, seriously, in Canada it will be a three year plan (can't we ever match anything done by the americans, or we're always destined to be the loser?), so I wouldn't be surpised if the price wasn't dramatically higher than in US (for that one extra year), so maybe 60-65 CAD/month?

Wishful thinking... It's gonna be 70-75 CAD for sure! Let's place bets! :D
Price of petrol in UK has skyrocketed in the last few weeks. It now costs £1.20 for a litre of petrol. It is now cheaper to use the bus : single journey costs £0.90 within London (doesn't matter where you get off).

[Polish-Boi]

Price of petrol in UK has skyrocketed in the last few weeks. It now costs £1.20 for a litre of petrol. It is now cheaper to use the bus : single journey costs £0.90 within London (doesn't matter where you get off).

wow that is crazy its around $1.24 in alberta

[yogi799]

hahah i like the first part.. maybe we should stop paying for our mortgage holy crap so much money goes into that :P :p


:D:D Good one!!

How did we get off topic so much, anyway? :D

[joemidnight66]

I'd expect the plan to be the same price as the one from Rogers, simply as Fido is owned by Rogers and I can't seem themselves offering a lower price from another part of the same company.

Hopefully they'll give the plan information out within the next week. I'm hoping they do have an unlimited data on whatever plan you get. Heck, if it's limited-unlimited to say 3GB per month, I think I'd be ok with that. Main reason for me not already having a 1st Gen iPhone is the horrible pricing of data plans. something like $30 for 25MB of data per month, and that is their restructured pricing too, it used to be even more expensive.

you'd be suprised... i'm a fido member and two phones with fido. i found that with the types of options i have with my fido phones... i find that i get a better bang for my buck staying with fido instead of moving to rogers.... it would cost me an extra 30 bucks a month for my two phones if i switched to rogers ....

[645Ci]

man, are we forced to subscribe the data plans as well?

If that's the case, I might sneak one from the Apple Store (US) (if that's possible) and get it unlocked....

[yogi799]

man, are we forced to subscribe the data plans as well?

If that's the case, I might sneak one from the Apple Store (US) (if that's possible) and get it unlocked....

You mean steal one? :D
They will have armed guards at the doors who will let you out only if you prove you signed off your life to AT&T :D

[naximus]

:D:D Good one!!

How did we get off topic so much, anyway? :D

LOL........

[sharkus]

There was this (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080617.RROGERS17/TPStory/?query=iphone) article in the Globe and Mail the other day.

It doesn't give much away, but Rogers didn't want to comment on wether they had made concessions to Apple, and I'm guessing they have, as in, there will be special price plans for the iPhone 3G, which will be combined voice/data plans, rather than the current joke of needing a voice and separate data plan.

I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that in every market for the 1st Gen iPhone, there have been combined voice/data plans, and I think it was Rogers reluctance to do this that resulted in us not getting the 1st gen iPhone.

Unless they have a very well priced data plan, I won't be getting an iPhone, as I do not wish to have to pay twice to use it, once for voice, and the second for data. We have seen them restructure their data pricing recently, but it's still very poorly priced for the consumer.

** edit **
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1st gen phone had a combined plan, but seems for 3G access with ATT you have to purchase a voice and separate 3G plan, is this right?

[sidechain]

$99.00 - $139.00 / month
- 3 Year Contract not 2 year as stated on Apple.ca
- System Activation fee
- Monthly System access fee
- Extra for text messaging
- Extra for Voicemail
- Extra For Visual Voicemail
- 911 Monthly fee (even thought 911 does not work well from cell phones)
- Extra for evenings and weekends
- Extra for early evenings 6.00PM
I hate cell phone companies they rip you off by charging extra for everything. :mad:

[lessew]

Here's an interesting piece:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/05/roger-may-offer.html

"While the handset itself is expected to cost around the same as in the US, the data plans will be much cheaper. The phantom tipster says that the new iPhone will qualify for Rogers' $7 per month all-you-can-eat plan..."

[naximus]

Take this information am providing here AS IS but it looks like someone has leaked information a bit early.... Looks pretty interesting...here is the link

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/06/18/iphone-3g-in-canada-rogers-says-data-rates-might-be-slightly-less-ridiculous/

it could be a find and replace job on the at&t document seen on the internet so like i said take it as is

[yogi799]

$99.00 - $139.00 / month
- 3 Year Contract not 2 year as stated on Apple.ca
- System Activation fee
- Monthly System access fee
- Extra for text messaging
- Extra for Voicemail
- Extra For Visual Voicemail
- 911 Monthly fee (even thought 911 does not work well from cell phones)
- Extra for evenings and weekends
- Extra for early evenings 6.00PM
I hate cell phone companies they rip you off by charging extra for everything. :mad:

Forgot something?

-Extra for the Home Button
-Extra for touch-screen (standard, have to use a hammer)
-Extra for flush headphone jack
-Extra for carrying it with you more than 5 minutes a day.

Welcome to Rogers! How may we hell (sorry, help) you today? :D

[LiTos]

Nice lol, how may we hell you today.
I dont think thats possible. It just cant be allowed. Noone will buy it, people would rather buy some other smartphone then..

[sidechain]

It's official here is portion of a leaked document

What Burns me you have to read the FINE print

qualifying voice plan

I hate those 3 words I am sure the "qualifying voice plan"
will be an expensive voice plan. Mine is about $20.00 a month.
I am assuming that my plan will not qualify I have zero interest in a $100.00/month cell phone bill. looks like I am going to be iPhone 1.0 for a while.
I don't need a data plan WIFI works for me.

Cell Phone companies suck in North America.
EU still has the best system IMO.


Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with existing 2 or 3-year agreements.

Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing Rogers and Fido voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.

All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
SUP service discounts for both voice and data plans will apply to iPhone 3G.
RAC service discounts for voice and data will apply to iPhone 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
Ambassadors will not get a discount on device purchase for iPhone 3G.
Data Pricing will be as follows:

Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail when subscribed to any voicemail service.

Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail when subscribed to any voicemail service.

Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. Rogers has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.

All customers will be required to sign a 3-year agreement. There will not be a "no commitment" price or a 2-year agreement for the iPhone 3G.

[sharkus]

I've read the alleged pricing info and it doesn't fill me with joy to be honest.

I'm on the anytime 25 plan, so basic price is $25, then add in enhanced voicemail, system access fee, 911 access fee and taxes and it's up to $40 a month. Now, I don't use the phone that much as it is.

To get a 3G, unless Rogers pulls a fantastic magic rabbit out of it's hat, which I doubt, I'd be looking at adding an additional $30 to my current plan, taking it to $70 a month. I know I'd use the browsing side of things a bit, but enough to warrant and additional $30 a month? Well I don't think so.

The other factor is wether Rogers is going to offer any kind of deals to existing customers who want to switch to the 3G. I'm not eligible for a handset upgrade as I had to do that in January when my last handset broke, so that rules out one kind of cross-grade. I'm guessing that I'd have to cancel my existing contract, which means paying an ECF, and god knows how much that'll be, and then starting a new 3 year contract for $70 a month, plus the cost of a new 3G.

Obviously things will become clearer as we near the 11th, and I'm not planning on being a launch day purchaser anyway.

[sidechain]

Rogers expects to have all employees trained by July 2 on the new price plans.
New item early adopters be warned you pay a premium. I have lived 45 years without a 3G iPhone i am going to wait as they are going to rape the consumer for this one.
Besides there will be a 32GB ipGone by Xmas - That's just the Apple thing to do.

[sharkus]

I asked Rogers about cross-grades and such like, but they don't have the info yet, just provided the same thing they previously had done, which is to give the tentative price and state there will be more info available later.

I did find out my contract period though (it does not seem to be visible via MyRogers, would be nice if it were), seems when I upgraded the handset I also signed a new 3 year contract, ending in 2011, so if I want to cancel out of it, due to there being more than 20 months less, it'll cost me $400, which is a complete and utter joke seeing as I believe AT&T charges a flat $175.

So, unless there is some magical deal for existing customers (I've been with Rogers since 2003, plus have other services with them, so that might count), I'd be looking at an ECF of $400, then $199 - $299 for the 3G, then a monthly price plan, which would be at least $70 (40 voice, 30 data), and another 3 year contract. Hmm, not overly appetizing to say the least.

[LiTos]

i doubt it will happen...i mean really... thats just a ripoff. people will boycott lol.

[sidechain]

If the Rogers Data plans are not unlimited the iPhone will fail in Canada. The corporate pencil pushers are out of touch if they keep the status quo with soaking people for cell phone data service in Canada. If Apple bucked into Rogers and make them not sell unlimited data to customers it will make the Apple iPhone not such a great thing in Canada. I tried Edge on my iPhone 1.1 and I used a lot data without too much effort ad in cost me about $80.00 a month for 3 months. A total joke so I cancelled my data plan.
If there is not an unlimited data plan in Canada I will not be upgrading and buying a new phone Rogers looses and Apple looses. I will not pay $100.00 to have a 3 G iphone when I only pay $20.00 /month for my iPhone 1.1.
I am sure I am not alone

[naximus]

If this is true (must have a 3 yr contract and a NO on no commentment price) then the iPhone will fail in Canada...i would be the first to BOYCOTT these out of touch M&*.

I would hope to god most Canadian feel and do the same thing....R U KIDDING ME...minimum 3 YEARS?????????? FOR WHAT...ITS NOT A GOD DAMN CAR.........

[sidechain]

I agree the 3 year plan is BS because I am sure Apple wants people to buy a new iphone more than once every 3 years. FWIW the ATT plans in the US were 2 years
On the Apple.ca site some weeks ago (this may be changed today) it was posted as 2 years but the Rogers site was 3 years.