Are you switching to the Second Generation iPhone ?

[sedjav]

We're pretty sure the 2nd gen iPhone will arrive some where next month, but the question is are you upgrading or not and why.
By hearing different opinions I'm sure this thread will help us decide what to do, sell our iPhone now or just keep it and forget the new gen.

[iTJW]

Depends on a few things for me:

1) GPS. If it has true GPS, that would be a feature I'd be willing to pay for. 3G is a nice upgrade, but I am on T-Mobile, have Wi-Fi almost everywhere I go, and am not too excited about 3G speeds anyway (it's still slow guys... just not AS slow lol).

2) Price vs. Resale of the current 16GB model. If the new one crashes the market on the old one, I'll probably hang onto mine. If it stays $400 or higher for a used unlocked one (making it maybe only about $200 to upgrade (assuming the new one is $599)), I'd jump.

3) Most importantly: CAN IT BE UNLOCKED/JAILBROKEN? If not, of course not =).

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[rvashi]

I am not sure I know enough about the next iPhone to be able to say right now. In a way, I feel stupid now since I just bought my iPhone like two months ago...since I was totally new to the iPhone community and didn't know that there was another one coming out soon.

If there is no major difference besides 3G, then I'll probably wait until end of the year.

[ccc001]

As a T-Mobile USA user, I am waiting to see what the final specs will be for iPhone 2.0. I am not interested in paying $500+ for native GPS or a front-face camera (assuming they are actually a part of the phone). My main concern is whether Apple comes out with a universal 3g chip for 2.0 that is compatible with T-Mobile's 3g network in the US. If the 2.0 is T-Mobile USA 3g compatible and the price is less than $550, I will probably take the plunge. My wife will then be the beneficiary of a jailbroken 16gb T-Mobile iPhone 1.0 :)

ccc001

[al217739]

i very much doubt i will be getting one, my current one seems to be on the way out

its just too risky to have something like this that could break without a guarantee, plus itll be 270+ and if my current one goes i wont be able to get any of that back! 250 over 9 months is too much

[sedjav]

i very much doubt i will be getting one, my current one seems to be on the way out

why whats wrong?

[rvashi]

Just thinking about this...and this is a little off topic but how much faster or slower is 3G compared to EVDO. I am with Sprint and AT&T right now and would like to eventually switch to AT&T but I have to Mogul with Sprint and that has EVDO Rev. A...which is really fast for the most part (it also has GPS and Sprint TV).

Unless the 3G speeds are much much quicker than EDGE, and the new iPhone has AT&T TV and GPS, I don't think I wanna' throw another $400-$500 into another iPhone.

[al217739]

twice today ive had da repair needed icon come up

[sedjav]

maybe ur using a bad case or maybe ur phones near a magnetic field all the time

[sedjav]

twice today ive had da repair needed icon come up

one minute of silence for al217739's iPhone, RIP your little brother is coming next month

[al217739]

nope, no more apple products for me, ipods anything

[bezman]

nope, no more apple products for me, ipods anything
you did hack it remember, if you had bought it from a local carrier you would have just walked into a store and got it replaced by a nice guy/girl in a black tshirt, that is the gamble we all face unlocking our iphones.

if the new iphone is in your local country i wouldnt miss getting it, i would love to have the confidence of having my warranty fulfilled in a case like yours.

[al217739]

yeah, thats why ive decided not to get another, without the hack its a rip off

[rockstars]

As long as the 2.0 firmware can be jailbroken, I'll update.

I am an AT&T customer and I will not be buying the new phone, I just want the new firmware.

[thecompkid]

Well, my battery is really starting to show its age and I am almost never near wifi except at home, so, yeah, i'll be waiting in line :).

On a semi-related note, my iPhone has held up pretty well for the past 10+ months. Yeah, the battery is not the best (but still very good don't get me wrong) and the chrome border is slowly turning into brushed metal, but I still have no visible scratches on the screen and I have never used screen protection of any kind. I guess they had enough of people complaining about scratches, so they fixed the problem for good with glass.

[DJ McG]

If it can be jailbroken and has 3G, and looks sweet, then I probably will. My main concern is that it can be jailbroken and that it looks cool, 3G is nice too of course :D

[)law(]

if its just 3g thats going to be in it then meh, i will however take a day off when it comes out to hustle some cash selling good spots in line:p

[Caracarn]

I bought my Iphone in America for $500Au, sold it it 9 months later for $455Au on Ebay Australia, so didnt lose much on it. I decided to sell it because I wanted the 3G version and once they officially announce that mine won't be worth much.

Roll on June!

[sedjav]

more than half of the voters are upgrading, I think I'll follow.

[secretmrx]

as iPhone is coming officially to Vodafone and Telecom New Zealand, yep I'll be getting one :D

[Former Bender]

I'll wait the 3rd generation to be released and might decide to change or not as i am completely satisfied with my 16GB.

I'm not a latest product victim.
(i had my iPhone only in February this year) :D

[n350z]

I’d be 100% sold on the 2.0 if we had full Bluetooth and MMS coming

But until then I think I fall in the “Haven’t decided yet” category :rolleyes:

[romenator]

I have already sold my iphone on ebay for more than what i paid for it. Now the money is in my bank waiting to be spent on the 3g iphone (if its unlockable).

[spaceman81]

the problem is, the new iphone doesn't look as nice as the current one. I like the aluminum back. The new ones in black doesn't look as good. Oh well, maybe it's just me.

[patvg]

We're pretty sure the 2nd gen iPhone will arrive some where next month, but the question is are you upgrading or not and why.
By hearing different opinions I'm sure this thread will help us decide what to do, sell our iPhone now or just keep it and forget the new gen.

upgrading can be :

1. upgrade firmware/software on ones 8GB/16GB iPhone
2. get a new iPhone (there will be 2/2.5G and 3G iPhones availble ...)

upgrading your current (2/2.5G) iPhone :
-the iPhone has been from day one - little room for debate left- a revolutionary device, setting new standards (look at Nokia, HTC, RIMM recently, WinMobile... trying to mimic it ...but none of them getting close or doing nothing more than attempting to be a bad copy of the original)
-every software update from Apple on the iPhone was partly fixing bugs and partly adding features and functionalities (admit it : in less then 1 year, Apple has smoothly updated its device 4 times ... ever tried to update a WinMob device like HTC ..ppfffft)
-upgrading your current iPhone to version 2.0 won't bring you 3G, real GPS ... but it will bring a lot of other nice features ...
-I think conclusion could be made that yes, I will upgrade to 2.0, it will make my current device better and completer
-Apple also stops supporting previous software versions on the iPhone every time they released a new one (which is logical ..)

3G
if you want 3G (don't forget to include the price tag on getting and using 3G networkd ..), real GPS, 32Gig of memory .. or whatever new features in the upcoming models : get a new iPhone, it will come by definition with 2.0 and most probably won't be soft downgradable to 1.1.4 or lower ...

[Former Bender]

Poll question arranged to avoid confusion and fit the OP post's topic.

[manparra]

It really depends. Im in Mexico and now that it will be "legally" available I might me tempted on getting it in order to have a full warranty. We have 3G here but prices are out of this planet. Unlimited data plan is 80 USD + minutes so if they come out with a great data plan for IPhone I´ll definitely switch and my brother will get a great Iphone v1.0 instead of his samsung...:D

[sedjav]

Poll question arranged to avoid confusion and fit the OP post's topic.

yeah thanks for arranging it, after patvg's points it was necessary to change upgrade to switch because current iPhones can be updated to FW2.0

[Spen1]

Have not decided yet.

BUT IMO its too soon to tell...we dont have any specs,..features,...pics of the phone..So yeh...everyone should stop assuming.

[Zkrizzle]

honestly im going to wait till 3rd generation... im going to wait till my current iphone dies all the way... so far the prices (rumors still) seem to much for me and next year there will just be a better one... i already have what i need on my phone a video recorder and now i can watch tv on it so really i dont think im going to upgrade anytime soon and ive had my phone ever since the price went down to 400 dollars so its not even a year old yet

[BImmelicous]

my iphone is on ebay and wants to be sold in 1 week.
i will order the new phone as soon as it will be released.
And i hope there will be a new ziphone when my 2nd gen iphone arrives here in germany.
If not, i have to wait...
But i AM GOING to buy it!!!! Im looking forward to 6/9!

[bobbylight]

Just thinking about this...and this is a little off topic but how much faster or slower is 3G compared to EVDO. I am with Sprint and AT&T right now and would like to eventually switch to AT&T but I have to Mogul with Sprint and that has EVDO Rev. A...which is really fast for the most part (it also has GPS and Sprint TV).

Unless the 3G speeds are much much quicker than EDGE, and the new iPhone has AT&T TV and GPS, I don't think I wanna' throw another $400-$500 into another iPhone.

This is what I really want to know- How fast will the 3g speeds actually be? That will be a huge factor for me because I think I use the phone more for data than for talking.

I have a friend with an HTC Mogul on sprints EVDO rev a network and on iphonenetworktest.com he gets about 560kbps!!!!

When are we going to get near this speed? On ATTs gophone edge I averaged about 120kbps sometimes a little less.


Also, does anyone think that ATT will have the fastest/best 3g network? Because there's been a lot of news about that lately and that would not only be a factor in me buying a new phone, but even going with ATT as t-mobile's nationwide 3g network seems quite a ways away.

[wsxijn03]

This is what I really want to know- How fast will the 3g speeds actually be? That will be a huge factor for me because I think I use the phone more for data than for talking.

I have a friend with an HTC Mogul on sprints EVDO rev a network and on iphonenetworktest.com he gets about 560kbps!!!!

When are we going to get near this speed? On ATTs gophone edge I averaged about 120kbps sometimes a little less.


Also, does anyone think that ATT will have the fastest/best 3g network? Because there's been a lot of news about that lately and that would not only be a factor in me buying a new phone, but even going with ATT as t-mobile's nationwide 3g network seems quite a ways away.

3G in its current form geneally supports up to 384kbps. That is also called the R99 data rate. However an improvement has been made in the downlink data speed to support up to 14.4 Mbps with full implementation and is called HSPDA or 3.5G.

Currently AT&T supports both 3G/3.5G and so should the 2nd Gen iPhone. Having said that, currently AT&T only implemented 1.8Mbps in their HSDPA network. This may change the near future as some countries in the world has implement 7.2Mbps. Bear in mind that handsets such as iPhone had to be designed to take avantage of the speed that the network supports. Currently you will get about 600-700 kbps on average on AT&T's HSDPA network.

Now iPhone 3G will not work on t-mobile's 3G network in the US because they will be using a different frequency bands from those in US and Europe. iPhone should support 850/1900 band in US used by AT&T and 2100MHz in the rest of the world. T-mobile in the US split the 3G bands between 1700/2100MHz, so sorry for the T-Mobile US people.

[schneiderman]

does anybody know when will apple realese information on the apple website?

[neonkoala]

The rumours of an Atom based MID device tempt me as Apple seem to have a knack for getting things just right.

[bobbylight]

3G in its current form geneally supports up to 384kbps. That is also called the R99 data rate. However an improvement has been made in the downlink data speed to support up to 14.4 Mbps with full implementation and is called HSPDA or 3.5G.

Currently AT&T supports both 3G/3.5G and so should the 2nd Gen iPhone. Having said that, currently AT&T only implemented 1.8Mbps in their HSDPA network. This may change the near future as some countries in the world has implement 7.2Mbps. Bear in mind that handsets such as iPhone had to be designed to take avantage of the speed that the network supports. Currently you will get about 600-700 kbps on average on AT&T's HSDPA network.

Now iPhone 3G will not work on t-mobile's 3G network in the US because they will be using a different frequency bands from those in US and Europe. iPhone should support 850/1900 band in US used by AT&T and 2100MHz in the rest of the world. T-mobile in the US split the 3G bands between 1700/2100MHz, so sorry for the T-Mobile US people.

Rep Points for that answer, very thorough!

So do you think that the new iphone will support the 3.5G HSDPA network to get those mobile download speeds from the phone?

Think ATT would charge more for that?

[al217739]

battery life will suffer with 3g,
bluetooth will still be useless,
design cant be changed much,
i dont live in a 3g area
recently found out gprs/edge doesnt work on pay and go anyway

nah, wont be switching, cant see any reason to

[schneiderman]

battery life will suffer with 3g,
bluetooth will still be useless,
design cant be changed much,
i dont live in a 3g area
recently found out gprs/edge doesnt work on pay and go anyway

nah, wont be switching, cant see any reason to

lol nothing is going to make you switch, lol your on 1.0.2 still ahaha

[Kiros76]

[QUOTE=zhuqing456;295602]The fourth wow power leveling (http://www.wow-powerleveling.org) latest game in

Eh?? whatever do you mean

[Dragg1e]

Yeah, I'd upgrade. Right away. Pending the unlock though....

[trapper]

one minute of silence for al217739's iPhone, RIP your little brother is coming next month

al217739, When I first got my iPhone I kept getting this randomly when fiddling around and installing stuff, but no single app seemed to be causing it - after uninstalling a few at random it would always come right… until next time.

I eventually realised it was somehow related to free space on the 300MB partition. I used boss-tool to move the fonts over to the media partition, freeing up a big pile of space - never had to restore or anything - and the error has never come back! :)

[trapper]

We're pretty sure the 2nd gen iPhone will arrive some where next month, but the question is are you upgrading or not and why.
By hearing different opinions I'm sure this thread will help us decide what to do, sell our iPhone now or just keep it and forget the new gen.
Why is everyone so sure that Apple/Telco will make the same mistake twice?

After the lessons learnt with iPhone V1 It will be a bit of a surprise if you make it home with a new iPhone V2 without signing up to a full 2 year contract in store. It won’t do ya much good bypassing the iTunes activation when the telco bills start arriving every month anyway!

If this happens then our 1st edition iPhone may well go UP in value!

[Killian]

Hello guys,

is it true do we hv to wait to all 3rd app be "converted" to this new framework? how long will it take?

Because i've read on article everything we hv now won´t be compatible with this new firmware (2.0), and the worst thing the polices have been changed, sow now we can't run 3rd part application except on his directory or mobile directory (i think).

So, its worth to buy this new iphone withou option to run 3rd app ? i don't think because we hv to buy the app and we can´t costumize anymore our iphone :(

Hugz

[madrich]

My original 4g iphone is a collector's item, here, in the future. It's worth $1 Million on the open market (US Dollars).

[)law(]

My original 4g iphone is a collector's item, here, in the future. It's worth $1 Million on the open market (US Dollars).

any news on the 8g and the gold iPhone LOL

[capntang]

I probably won't be upgrading. Not immediately, anyway.

I have absolutely no intention of switching providers and moving to AT&T. To be perfectly honest, anyone who intends to do so purely for the iPhone is a fool.

Throwing cameras and GPS chipsets into the thing doesn't hold much appeal. I have a standalone GPS device that can probably do the "GPS thing" better than the iPhone could, and I have never seen the appeal in phone-mounted cameras. Sure, I'll take a snapshot here and there, but that's about it.

I do hope that Apple spent a little time correcting the mistakes they made the first time around - crippled Bluetooth, missed call and message notifications, etc. The iPhone is supposed to be a phone after all. There's simply no excuse for overlooking any of the features that have been included on basic phones for years (I'm really referring to missed call notification here ... I can't stand its absence in my current iPhone).

If the new model supports full-featured Bluetooth (including tethering) and includes some sort of additional missed call notification, I might be more inclined to consider it. If support for T-mobile's 3G network is somehow included and an unlock can be found, it just might seal the deal. Otherwise, I'll probably hang on to the 16GB gen. 1 I have for the time being and keep an eye out for other options.

[lolec]

Why is people so exited about a 3Gb iphone ? i mean i understand that with all the room they save by removing 5 gigs they can put a gps chip there or even a 3 or 5 MPixel sensor, but come on! 3Gb wont be enough, also with new shiny apps coming i think ill fill my iphone with just apps ! and i have the 16G model.

[X3n0 Ac|d]

Why is people so exited about a 3Gb iphone ? i mean i understand that with all the room they save by removing 5 gigs they can put a gps chip there or even a 3 or 5 MPixel sensor, but come on! 3Gb wont be enough, also with new shiny apps coming i think ill fill my iphone with just apps ! and i have the 16G model.



WHAT??? :confused:

[TATANKA]

I am going for 3G because I like to have faster internet.:)

[elnekis]

I still will wait for the 3g iPhone to be jailbroken and unlocked to use it in my country.

I am with a different phone company than the one that is going to bring the iphone here officially some time this year, because of that I will wait until it is fully unlocked. I´ve had an iPhone for over 8 months now and I am sure Im gonna continue with this set of phones for quite a long time.

[madrich]

any news on the 8g and the gold iPhone LOL

It's platinum; not gold.

[fakeyou]

if basic features of the iphone are being improved as well as the exterior of the phone is changed for the better.

i might actually sell my current one switch over to the next iphone.

[donky]

naa, just gonna live with the current one. 3G is not worth

[Cossy]

Its simply not worth it.
3G wont be that much difference, the camera will be a little better, might include a video recorder which we kind of got, unlocking/jailbreaking will take a good month or 2 to be on display.

The current phone is fine how it is as it contains more than we expected and its worth waiting for the 3rd generation which i reckon will be hugely different.

It will have a superb camera, great connection speeds, the design will be lighter and funkier, finger print authorisation, much bigger storage space (80gb), gps will actually compete with the best.

So why upgrade to something that wont make much difference and wait for something that will.

[vandy1997]

I probably won't be able to resist getting it! I currently have an 8GB model (purchased 2 days after the release date), and a refurbed 16GB model (purchased through AT&T for $349 - great deal!). So I may sell the 8GB model and buy the 3G model (16GB or 32GB, if the latter is available). If the 3G is not jailbroken right away, I will still have the 16GB that is WinPwned, and so I will have access to jailbroken apps. I am wondering if the apps purchased through the AppStore can be installed on multiple iPhones via iTunes or if they can only be installed on one phone. I hope that we will at least be able to transfer the apps to a different iPhone if we have to replace the phone or upgrade to a better/newer model. Just to be safe, I will install the AppStore apps on the 3G phone. I can't wait for the news!! I hope that Apple will not disappoint and just provide a 3G chip in there; that would be a let down. But being that they have taken so long to produce this 3G phone, one would think that Apple did more than just add a 3G chip and a slightly larger capacity battery. Fingers crossed.

[darkskies]

Just sold my 16gb iPhone on ebay for £30 for than I bought it for 6 weeks previously...the money is waiting for June 9th!!! Didn't want to suffer the price drop then when everybody else dumps theirs.

The need for 3G is strong enough to make me go back to my SonyEricsson for a few weeks!

ROLL ON JUNE 9TH!!!

DS

[Former Bender]

Don't forget guys.

There won't be any unlock available for the 2nd Gen iPhone at its release date.

[jumphopspin]

i heard that the iphone 2 won't be carrier exclusive anymore.. they might have factory unlocked versions for sale (but i'm not sure how it's gonna work out since i also heard that the 3g chip won't support t-mobile's 3g network). hopefully it's true and it'll save the hackers some time and money from experimenting with multiple units.

[vandy1997]

You may be right, but i can't see AT&T giving up its exclusivity in the US. AT&T made quite a bit of money and was successful in getting users to switch from other carriers due to the iPhone. Maybe if Apple gave AT&T a portion of the unlocked phone proceeds/ But I cannot see it. It may be sold "unlocked" in other countries, but it will probably still be locked to certain carriers in those countries.

i heard that the iphone 2 won't be carrier exclusive anymore.. they might have factory unlocked versions for sale (but i'm not sure how it's gonna work out since i also heard that the 3g chip won't support t-mobile's 3g network). hopefully it's true and it'll save the hackers some time and money from experimenting with multiple units.

[jumphopspin]

well. i kinda jumped the gun on the new iphone and already sold my 8gb version on ebay yesterday. and i just got a brand new t-mobile contract last week. so now i feel obligated to get it, for better or for worse. (hopefully for better). and the reason is because i don't want to live with using the motorizr for the next two years. :(

[bendermarte]

Same here i just sold mine on ebay. scratched up and with the power button non-functional i still squeezed 310 USD out of it! keeping that money untouched to buy the new one. only bad thing is i'm a t-mobile customer and wouldn't switch to At&T and their terrible plans even if i get 6 months free! too bad i'll have to wait for the unlock but i'm sure sim-solutions will emerge even before the software unlock so i have my hopes up. i live in NYC so i'm going to try to get one the day they're released!

[BImmelicous]

i sold mine on last saturday on ebay for 400 Euros (630 usd) ;)

[jumphopspin]

Same here i just sold mine on ebay. scratched up and with the power button non-functional i still squeezed 310 USD out of it! keeping that money untouched to buy the new one. only bad thing is i'm a t-mobile customer and wouldn't switch to At&T and their terrible plans even if i get 6 months free! too bad i'll have to wait for the unlock but i'm sure sim-solutions will emerge even before the software unlock so i have my hopes up. i live in NYC so i'm going to try to get one the day they're released!

sigh.. it's not going to work on tmobile's 3g network.. i wonder if it's possible at all for hackers to do their magic on this situation.. but i highly doubt it..

[jumphopspin]

if at&t's data plans aren't too terribly expensive and they offer the $200 off with contract, i think i just might jump ship to at&t to collect my $200 and use it to pay off termination fees with t-mobile.. i'd hate to do it but if push comes to shove...........

[chrissyboy]

I will be first in the queue, its the one missing thing for me, gprs cripple the iphone, with 3g onboard and hsdpa at that the new iphone will rock
:D

[sedjav]

sold mine for $500 just today. I already miss him :( only 10 days to go :) hell yeah am upgrading:D

[jumphopspin]

sold mine for $500 just today. I already miss him :( only 10 days to go :) hell yeah am upgrading:D

16gb? i sold my 8gb for $460 BIN + $35 sh and i kinda feel ripped the way the prices have been crazy high.

[BImmelicous]

(I sold my 8gb for 625$ ;) )

But i use my old K750i Sony for a week now and i HATE it. F*** tiny display and half of the keyboard doesnt work. and NO WIFI.

It sucks and i am afraid of, the unlock will a long time after release :(

the only advantage is, tha i can open up a beer with it...

[jameselder232]

Got my 16GB on ebay now, and i suppose the fact that all the shops/sites are sold out will help it to catch a high price.

Its in new condition with 10 months warranty left. (i have had an iphone since they first came out, but kept selling them to buy new ones as i always managed to get the same amount of money for the old one as a new one costs :) )

I just like to have the latest product, and since i can get what i paid for my 16gb i figured i might as well sell it, got nothing to lose.

Who knows, the new version may have a better camera etc. so this will be worth the upgrade even if im not bothered about gps or 3g.

[jumphopspin]

Why is everyone so sure that Apple/Telco will make the same mistake twice?

After the lessons learnt with iPhone V1 It will be a bit of a surprise if you make it home with a new iPhone V2 without signing up to a full 2 year contract in store. It won’t do ya much good bypassing the iTunes activation when the telco bills start arriving every month anyway!

If this happens then our 1st edition iPhone may well go UP in value!

they can't force you to get a contract. if you want to buy an iphone as-is, they can't refuse it.

[hooverhiker]

ill definitely buy it. will it be available on the online apple store immediately when it comes out? if so, why are so many people going to wait in line at the real apple stores to buy it?

[jumphopspin]

ill definitely buy it. will it be available on the online apple store immediately when it comes out? if so, why are so many people going to wait in line at the real apple stores to buy it?

i think you just answered your own question..

[hooverhiker]

i think you just answered your own question..

so you are saying i have to go to the apple store and wait in line to get it when it first comes out? how long does apple usually wait before selling products online?

[law2004]

i think the day it comes out. usually there are people who have been waiting for countless hours. so yeah good luck.. xD

[jumphopspin]

i think the day it comes out. usually there are people who have been waiting for countless hours. so yeah good luck.. xD

since i have nothing to do during the couple of weeks before the supposed launch date(s), i think i will go crazy and set up a tent like 3 days before.

[george_6666]

Well, The Upgrading depends on the COST factor.... How much will it cost ???

I already took a loan on my Friends name for this iPhone and betrayed my friend :D
But who cares.... I got the iPhone :)
This is what I call a FREE* iPhone.


*FREE means Completely Free. Just make a Friend and Betray him :D

[me.]

I already took a loan on my Friends name for this iPhone and betrayed my friend :D
But who cares.... I got the iPhone :)
This is what I call a FREE* iPhone.
*FREE means Completely Free. Just make a Friend and Betray him :D
I've heard iphones have permanent "No Service" in hell... So make sure you have lots of music there to spend eternity with...

[trapper]

they can't force you to get a contract. if you want to buy an iphone as-is, they can't refuse it.
errr … wtf? Of course they can refuse you! lol

[vinodis]

I will buy only if :-

1) It has a => 3.2mpx camera
2) Video Recording
3) 3G
4) Better Battery Life than the current iPhone
5) Similar or lesser thicker than the current iPhone
6) IMPORTANTLY - only after it is unlockable.

It is a shame on Apple to call iPhone as a real Media device without a Great Camera and Video Recording capability.

[jumphopspin]

errr … wtf? Of course they can refuse you! lol

think about it.. there's really no where that states you must get into a contract with a service provider in order to purchase a phone. there may be some laws that disallow such practice, but i might be wrong though. and plus, if they were going to help you set up a contract at the store (especially on launch date and the week following) how crazy long do you think the lines will get? i think apple and at&t here in the u.s. let customers activate on their own on itunes for this very reason. and if they do refuse you from purchasing an iphone, that kind of attitude will cause apple to lose a lot of business. (i don't even think apple employees are allowed to set up or extend contracts simply because they aren't at&t or any cellphone provider workers) i'm pretty sure apple knows that a good percentage of the people buying are unlockers, so those people will just end up buying the older iphones on ebay. in the end, it will be bad for apple who btw are trying to sell 10 million iphones by the end of the year.

[me.]

... i'm pretty sure apple knows that a good percentage of the people buying are unlockers, so those people will just end up buying the older iphones on ebay. in the end, it will be bad for apple who btw are trying to sell 10 million iphones by the end of the year.
Apple teamed up with so many carries around the world that I guess it'll sell 10 mil contract-based iphones easy by the end of the year even without unlockers... Only Vodafone will sell it in like 10 countries...

[sedjav]

only two days to go... boy oh boy

[sam]

Sadly I am badly broke these days, but luckily someof the others will get one instantly. I am still curious for the new design, this si the thing which intrests me most :D

[wolfie]

what would for me be a instant selling point ( i got the 1st gen iphone ) is if the new iphone is 3g AND i can use it as a modem for my macbook air.

every other speculation, would be nice to have but not enough for me to purchase.

[crispain]

Me? sure... first thing I'll do is to dissasemble it :D

[law2004]

eyy . lol i think am switching cause all i got now is a sim card without an iphone.
nd yeh yeh its waiting for an iphone! .arg i hope it can be unlocked quickly xD

[)law(]

eyy . lol i think am switching cause all i got now is a sim card without an iphone.
nd yeh yeh its waiting for an iphone! .arg i hope it can be unlocked quickly xD


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[law2004]

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lol sorry i typed that wrong,,

[sedjav]

now that its revealed are you upgrading?

[Bedo16]

Nope, no upgrade for me
Still useless bluetooth
Same camera
No flash in safari
No copy paste
No MMS
3G is useless for me because my provider does not support it.

i will stick the 1st generation

[darkskies]

Absolutely!

Double battery time, GPS and 3G make this a definate upgrade.

Already peed off that I have to wait a month!!

DS

[RiqTosh]

The only thing I envy on the new model is the battery life. That's about it.

I'm on T-mobile, so 3G connection is out of the question, and wont' be switching my service any time soon.

So hopefully, once my battery starts showing its age I can send it to apple for replacement and they will, again hopefully, replace it with a much better long lasting battery.

I'll stick my first gen iPhone.

[buhce]

I will aslong as it can be unlocked and jailbroken, yeah.

[jumphopspin]

I will aslong as it can be unlocked and jailbroken, yeah.

jailbroken, maybe. unlocked? get your hands on one before even thinking about it.

[trapper]

think about it.. there's really no where that states you must get into a contract with a service provider in order to purchase a phone. there may be some laws that disallow such practice, but i might be wrong though. and plus, if they were going to help you set up a contract at the store (especially on launch date and the week following) how crazy long do you think the lines will get? i think apple and at&t here in the u.s. let customers activate on their own on itunes for this very reason. and if they do refuse you from purchasing an iphone, that kind of attitude will cause apple to lose a lot of business. (i don't even think apple employees are allowed to set up or extend contracts simply because they aren't at&t or any cellphone provider workers) i'm pretty sure apple knows that a good percentage of the people buying are unlockers, so those people will just end up buying the older iphones on ebay. in the end, it will be bad for apple who btw are trying to sell 10 million iphones by the end of the year.
yup, looks like it... ;)

[jumphopspin]

yup, looks like it... ;)

sigh.. let's hope that the people who said they called apple and were told that you can still activate through itunes is telling the truth.. and that the apple reps themselves are also telling the truth..

[trapper]

Hey don’t get me wrong here - I'm hoping for the same thing!

If by some miracle it's possible to hand over £100 and walk out of the store - free and clear - with a new iPhone v2.0, then damn right I will be queuing up with the rest of ya. (just don’t think this is going to happen, that’s all)