[iPhone SDK] What program did they use in the presentation?

[fundidor]

Hi Folks,


I have downloaded the SDK, and what I really wanted now is to use the program. Developers used on the March 6th presentation.

I mean that program they used to display their iPhone's screen on the Mac's display, and seen on the big screen.

I wanted to give some lessons on iPhone usage and that would be very helpfull. I thought some tool to enable this would come along with the SDK, but I can't find it.


Can someone help me?

Thank you!

[fundidor]

I have some more info, I got from a close friend of mine, 65 years old who knows a few apple engineers... He was able to ask a few questions to the right people, and they said that on the presentation they use a special version of Apple Remote Desktop that "talks" TCP thru the USB cable...

Any other clues how I can achieve this?

[thebo83]

I have some more info, I got from a close friend of mine, 65 years old who knows a few apple engineers... He was able to ask a few questions to the right people, and they said that on the presentation they use a special version of Apple Remote Desktop that "talks" TCP thru the USB cable...

Any other clues how I can achieve this?
This must be a wrong information, because if you look exactly, you will notice that they had TWO cables attached. The well known white usb cable and another black cable. I think they have special iphones with a special video connector...

[sam]

I suggest reading this article:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

[thecompkid]

I suggest reading this article:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

Weird, they say that s-video on the old universal dock doesn't work on iphone but it works just fine for me.

Anyway...the phones that they use for presentations are modified, there is no doubt about that. They don't use the standard video out driver.

[fundidor]

I just called Apple Store and asked them about the Universal Dock. They saied it would display my videos on the screen, but it would not display what I am doing with my iPhone on the big screen.

[fundidor]

This must be a wrong information, because if you look exactly, you will notice that they had TWO cables attached. The well known white usb cable and another black cable. I think they have special iphones with a special video connector...

Yes. You are right... Just checked the video again, they got two cables coming out of the iPhone....

How can I get my iPhone to do this?

I would be very glad to pay for a friend to modify one.

[fundidor]

Interesting reply I got from Apple:


Dear ****,

The equipment we use in our presentations & keynotes is not available for use by 3rd parties, and there is no one that you can talk with about this.

If you need to do a preso showing what's on the iPod's screen, our recommendation is that you use one of those projection systems where a camera points down at a flat surface, and the documents or item on the surface is view by the camera and then projected onto a screen.

But the equipment we use for our presos is not available, there is not escalation path to this request.

Best regards & best of luck,

[vandy1997]

That's a pretty lame response from Apple. It would be useful for teaching purposes to allow the screen information from the iPhone to be transferred onto a laptop.

[Wikinerd]

That's a pretty lame response from Apple. It would be useful for teaching purposes to allow the screen information from the iPhone to be transferred onto a laptop.

I guess the closest you can get is to screenshot it then animate it using Keynote or Flash.

The alternative is to sneak into 1 Infinite Loop then steal one for yourself...

[Former Bender]

The video out is taken straight from the graphic chip.

I guess they did an extra cable to make a diversion.
The hardware switches the video out when a video is about to be played.

It is using the Overlay as you can see the GUI is not mixed up with the played video.

Somebody with an oscilloscope and an opened iPhone can try to track down the video signal and see where is it coming from.

[fabiopigi]

or couldnt someone "just" develope a VNC Server for the iPhone?
i'm not sure if this would be possible, but that would be the best method.
however the "screendump" command can only capture one frame per command, right?

anyway, maybe someone with a better technical know how could investigate wheter it is possible to run a VNC Server, and with a laptop we could connect to this VNC server and project the content to a beamer

[SarahJ]

or couldnt someone "just" develope a VNC Server for the iPhone?
Yes, that is a great idea and would do the job. As I am also doing presentations, I would be interested too.

[fabiopigi]

sure, the idea is good, but as i said, i'm not sure wheter it is technically possible or not

[fundidor]

I have a brand new iPhone open now on my working table, a teacher from a local university of eletronics is helping me trying to locate the R, G, B, width and height signals from the graphics chip. Any help is very welcome! Anybody has a diagram of the graphics chip or screen?

[Former Bender]

If you had an Apple Video Cable (the one for iPhone) it would have been much easier to probe/track the signal

[fundidor]

we got the iPhone running today completely opened on the work bench. We have been able to disconect the video cable from the logic board and reconnect it while the system is still running. This means we have access to all video pins as they send out signals. Tomorow we will run the signals on a good osciloscope, my teacher friend is really clever, I have big hopes we will get a successfull video out cable. The connections are so small, you need small needles to work on them. We are considering replacing iPhones battery for a smaller one and gain room inside the phone. Half the phone is ocupied by the battery. Removing the aluminum back was the worst part.

[fundidor]

If you had an Apple Video Cable (the one for iPhone) it would have been much easier to probe/track the signal

Our goal is to get full RGB direct video out of iPhone.

This means you will display on a big screen even the Apple logo as you boot iPhone or the spinning wheel when you shut it down.

[Former Bender]

Good !

Let us know your future progress :)