TurboSIM - The definitive guide

[ozbimmer]

I have confirmed that the Bladox TurboSIM method works with my mobile carrier only.

The steps are simple (still in draft):
1. Grab an iphone and activate it using the the jailbreak method as described in hacktheiphone.com
2. Grab a TurboSIM preloaded with applesaft.trb
3. Put the TurboSIM with the included AT&T SIM into the activated iphone and go to Settings>Phone>SIM Application, touch "Set" and wait for the tick symbol to appear next to "Set".
4. Remove the TurboSIM+AT&T combo and swap the AT&T SIM with your mobile carrier SIM. Put them into the iphone.
5. Enjoy :)

You can change the EDGE setting in Settings>General>Networks>EDGE

PLEASE NOTE:
1. I have issue with the contact between my AT&T SIM and TurboSIM. Need to discuss with TurboSIM manufacturer.
2. Need confirmation with others who has used TurboSIM with their local mobile carrier, preferrably with V2/V3 SIM.

Until all these are resolved/proven, don't go all out and buy thousands of TurboSIM :)

[pendalf]

great job!
:D

and even without any hardware 1+

[Edreamsz]

2. Grab a TurboSIM preloaded with applesaft.trb

Does a TSIM come with applesaft.rtb pre-loaded. If not, how can you load applesaft onto the TSIM?

[GoodCat]

Great done OZ

can you do me a favor and tell more to "Step 2"

2. Grab a TurboSIM preloaded with applesaft.trb


Im sure many will have problems with the second stepand im one of them :D

[raymng]

obzimmer,

So I just need to order a "Turbo SIM - Blank Version" Price: €59.00 EUR, right?? Anything else?

Thanks!!

[GTRTam]

In the phone setting, I can only see " sim pin " but no " sim application ". Does it come on only after installed the Turbo Sim ?

Thanks !

[jalexuk]

If you have a properly-activated iPhone which is now disconnected (ie. activated on the AT&T SIM in the US, and then cancelled the contract), how would this methodology change, or is the process identical?

[invaders]

Interesting news. This means that the iPhone is now effectively unlocked to work on all networks in all countries, incl. the USA. For 59 EUR you can pop-in a TurboSIM and off you go.

This will have a major impact on the Apple <> AT&T relationship. T-Mobile customers will buy the TurboSIMS to get around AT&T. And as soon as this news hits the wires, you will see Apple stock tumble. Just for the record: as I write this, it's at $129.05

[jalexuk]

as soon as this news hits the wires, you will see Apple stock tumble. Just for the record: as I write this, it's at $129.05

You stupid git.. this will have no affect on the share price. It will help Apple sell more iPhones, not less, and even then only a tiny fraction of people will want to go through the hassle of cutting up their SIM card and doing all these arcane things with their iPhones.

Christ, stick to discussing the TSIM and not promoting your stupid ideas on trading shares will you? There's a Yahoo Finance Board with your name on it if you want to troll.

[killercheung]

How can I get a applesaft preloaded Turbo Sim?

[invaders]

Jalexuk: I don't have shares, I'm just thinking a few steps ahead of you. Call me stupid, I'll give you another prediction: this hole in the iPhone security will be fixed within a week. Just a warning for all the people rushing out to order Turbosims.
And leave Christ out of the discussion, will ya? He won't unlock your iPhone.

[Palu]

Hi Ob, I've got this in my hand: http://www.magicsim.com/en/dual_sim.asp?new_id=26
Do you suggest me to give a try to test it? Could it be a cheaper alternative to the turbosim?

[jadajada]

That question has been asked three times in the thread already, let me be the fourth...

How to get TurboSim preloaded with applesaft? :confused:

[jalexuk]

leave Christ out of the discussion, will ya? He won't unlock your iPhone.
Invaders, haven't you heard? Its the "Jesus Phone." :cool:

[larcho]

That question has been asked three times in the thread already, let me be the fourth...

How to get TurboSim preloaded with applesaft? :confused:

I think this way:
http://www.gurmelas.dyndns.org/iPhoneUnlock/iPhone_Turbo_SIM_Hack_-_Instructions_with_Razr_and_Windows/iPhone_Turbo_SIM_Hack_-_Instructions_with_Razr_and_Windows.html

[nutdhanai]

That question has been asked three times in the thread already, let me be the fourth...

How to get TurboSim preloaded with applesaft? :confused:

Here is the info.. as quoted by Zf_ - this way you donot need the Razr to load the app to turbosim however, you need to SSH to the iphone as explained below


so here we go for a quick one

First, your phone must be activated (with the AT&T SIM), jailbreaked, and with SSH and vim. Refer to previous tutorials to do that

- Download the port of Bladox utilities http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showpost.php?p=15335&postcount=16 on your computer, extract it on your computer (you need the binary file turbo-app)
- Download AppleSaft 0.92 from Bladox (see the link on their forum, don't remember it), extract it on your computer (you need the .trb file)
- Turn on your phone with Turbo SIM + AT&T subscription
- Disable CommCenter - ssh to your phone, vim /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.CommCenter.plist add


Code:
<key>Disabled</key>
<true/>
for example add it just after these lines, already present in the file


Code:
<key>OnDemand</key>
<false/>
If you don't like vim, you can do this modification on your desktop computer (iPhuc/iPhoneInterface getfile, modify the file, and putfile)

vim ultra light survival kit

i : insert mode
ESC : command mode (from insert mode)
dd : delete the current line (in command mode)
:w! : save (in command mode)
:q! : quit (in command mode)

- Reboot
- Copy turbo-app to your phone (for example in /opt/bladox)
- Copy applesaft.trb to your phone (for example in /tmp)
- ssh to your phone, set the executable permission to turbo-app (chmod a+x /opt/bladox/turbo-app) and run it with /opt/bladox/turbo-app /tmp/applesaft.trb. It should take approximately 30 seconds and you shouldn't see any error. Please panic if you see one
- Reenable CommCenter - ssh to your phone, vim /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.CommCenter.plist and delete the lines you added previously
- Reboot
- Go into Settings/Phone/SIM Applications/Apple Saft and choose Set
- Turn off your phone
- Turn on your phone with Turbo SIM + your subscription and test


hope this shed some light to you guys..

[nutdhanai]

Ozbimmer.. congratulations on the successful testing by the way..

please can you enlighten us whether the patched activation method as explained here http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2212 (factoryactivated) work with TurboSim method?

thanks
NR

[parkertseng]

hi oz,
how to load the applesaft 0.92? is it by using the TL2 or TP2? and where to download this applesaft 0.92? can I load it with other writer like phoiex or infinity or jdm? thanks!

[killercheung]

hi oz,
how to load the applesaft 0.92? is it by using the TL2 or TP2? and where to download this applesaft 0.92? can I load it with other writer like phoiex or infinity or jdm? thanks!

I think ZF will provide a simple apps to help you upload Applesaft on the iphone very soon... the only problem is ... he need a new sim card :p

[GTRTam]

I plug old phone & I see 2 COM ports, COM3 said WMC Data modem & COM 4 said WMC Modem, which one I should use ?

" In the Windows Command Prompt, go to the Turbo Cable Util bin-win32 folder and run turbo-info -d \\.\COMx (x = your com Port number) "

Supposed if I have Turbo Sim with other sim, a DOS window pops up & I should type in a command " -d \\.\COMx "

Am I correct ?

[jalexuk]

Can someone please tell me if an iPhone activated the official AT&T/iTunes way rather than using a hack, can be unlocked using the TSIM method without having to play around with iActivator/iPhuc/Jailbreak etc modifications, or will I have to totally reset the phone and jailbreak/activate it using the unofficial methods in order to use a TSIM+non-AT&T carrier?

I have a properly-activated iPhone with a cancelled AT&T airtime contract, so everything except the call functions work just fine. Do I have to screw with this to get a TurboSIM to work?

My TSIM arrives tomorrow so I'm anxious to get some advice on how to proceed. Any help would be much appreciated :)

[MMMK]

I have confirmed that the Bladox TurboSIM method works with my mobile carrier only.

The steps are simple (still in draft):
1. Grab an iphone and activate it using the the jailbreak method as described in hacktheiphone.com
2. Grab a TurboSIM preloaded with applesaft.trb
3. Put the TurboSIM with the included AT&T SIM into the activated iphone and go to Settings>Phone>SIM Application, touch "Set" and wait for the tick symbol to appear next to "Set".
4. Remove the TurboSIM+AT&T combo and swap the AT&T SIM with your mobile carrier SIM. Put them into the iphone.
5. Enjoy :)

You can change the EDGE setting in Settings>General>Networks>EDGE

PLEASE NOTE:
1. I have issue with the contact between my AT&T SIM and TurboSIM. Need to discuss with TurboSIM manufacturer.
2. Need confirmation with others who has used TurboSIM with their local mobile carrier, preferrably with V2/V3 SIM.

Until all these are resolved/proven, don't go all out and buy thousands of TurboSIM :)

I am not an expert in this but -

Is it possible to get this in an Easy to use User friendly application from the WikiDev team?

If yes how long will it take them or is it easier for me to learn how to do the TurboSim method?

:D

What I mean is to get an application which does the tricking using software not hardware.

[CaptainDickei]

hi
my iphone has no at&t simcard...

where can i get one?

[mullo]

yeah thats what i'm wondering.. is the at&t sim card with the iphone when u buy it??
does the newer Motorola Razr's also work to load the file on the phone? thanks!

[Shade.sh]

yeah thats what i'm wondering.. is the at&t sim card with the iphone when u buy it??
does the newer Motorola Razr's also work to load the file on the phone? thanks!

1. Yes the AT&T SIM _must_ be included in your iPhone if you buy it!
2. I think the "most" phones should work with that. But take care about the plugin method!! Some phones can destroy your TurboSIM because damage it physical i.e. crack the sim!!

[MetalRat]

yeah thats what i'm wondering.. is the at&t sim card with the iphone when u buy it??
does the newer Motorola Razr's also work to load the file on the phone? thanks!

Sighh. Currently *all* iPhones come with the AT&T sim card pre-installed in the SIM card tray on the top of the phone. RTFM.

Which is why the official iPhone SIM card removal tool is actually a damn paperclip.


http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/dumbtastic/official-apple-iphone-tool-would-make-macgyver-proud-285735.php

MR

[Shade.sh]

Sighh. Currently *all* iPhones come with the AT&T sim card pre-installed in the SIM card tray on the top of the phone. RTFM.

Which is why the official iPhone SIM card removal tool is actually a damn paperclip.


http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/dumbtastic/official-apple-iphone-tool-would-make-macgyver-proud-285735.php

MR

lol - You are so right, RTFM ! You made my day :D

[iphoneuk]

PLEASE NOTE:
1. I have issue with the contact between my AT&T SIM and TurboSIM. Need to discuss with TurboSIM manufacturer.
2. Need confirmation with others who has used TurboSIM with their local mobile carrier, preferrably with V2/V3 SIM.

Until all these are resolved/proven, don't go all out and buy thousands of TurboSIM :)

Ozbimmer, First off. Well done and thanks for all youe help to everyone here.

Can you confirm that you have done this with a V2/V3 sim? Also, is there a problem with inserting/extracting TurboSim and another sim in the iPhone's sim card holder. Is it a very tight fit?

And as everyone else has asked, what about preloading the Turbo Sim with applesaft? How is this done?

Thanks

[SebSter85]

Im considering ordering a turbosim and trying this out with my Rogers sim card in Toronto...has anyone around these parts tried it yet? Or can give a definite no that it won't work? (I dont wanna waste my time if someone's already tried it, or knows that it wont work... otherwise Ill give it a go)

[iphoneuk]

I've just read Ozbimmer's comments on the Bladox forum and it seem he's done this with a v1 sim (he doesn't have v2/3 sim to test with). He also has an issue with the physical contact between the TS and ATT sim. To get it to work he copied ATT data to Silvercard, as I understand it.

I would heed Ozbimmer's warning not to rush out to buy TS until these issues are clarified or resolved.

This may be the answer that many of us are looking for but there are still problems to iron out.

Fingers crossed...

[MetalRat]

Ozbimmer, First off. Well done and thanks for all youe help to everyone here.

Can you confirm that you have done this with a V2/V3 sim? Also, is there a problem with inserting/extracting TurboSim and another sim in the iPhone's sim card holder. Is it a very tight fit?

And as everyone else has asked, what about preloading the Turbo Sim with applesaft? How is this done?

Thanks

There are very clear instructions about installing TurboSIM applications over at the bladox.com forum.

It is not terribly complicated, and there is even an alpha version of a native iPhone app available, which may do the trick. If you have any doubts, be patient and await the results of the less timid among us. we *will* post instructions, honest.

Just so you (and others know).

A SIM (Subscriber Information Module), is basically a small computer processor which comprises memory and a processor which is capable of running programs.

However the TurboSIM is quite clever in that is sits between the phone and the piggyback (the sim you want to use) and has its own independant and programmable CPU.

In this position it can intercept commands intended for the SIM and perform arbitrary operations on them.

SO the way you program the TurboSIM is that it will intercept commands sent to a phone when the phone is being used as a modem by a computer. the commands it intercepts are requests to store an SMS message to local memory (very rarely used commands which are capable of using 160 bits of data).

In effect a program on the computer which be using a phone with a TurboSIM installed, will send many (AT) commands to store SMS messages on the phone. The TurboSIM will intercept these messages and tie them all together into an application which will run on the TurboSIM itself.

This is why you need a phone like the RAZR. It recognises the commands sent by the program running on the computer and passes them on for the TurboSIM to intercept and thereby load appelsaft (the iPhone magic we need) into the TurboSIM's memory and allow it to run the program.

Actually there is another reason: The TurboSIMs are 1/10mm in thickness i.e. really damn fragile. Like pressed flowers, only less gay and more sensitive.

The Motorola SIM tray is well designed in that it has a flip out tray, which means you dont have to bend the SIM to get it to fit in, which might damage the TurboSIM.

I hope some of this has helped.

In short. If you aren't sure, wait. Be patient.

If you are impatient, make sure you have plenty of money to buy several of them.

MR

[SebSter85]

I'll risk some time and cash to give a hope to us up in Canada, I think I'll order one tonight and see what I can make of it. Probably won't arrive for a couple of days, once it does I'll try it right away and post back with results.



Seb

[starwarsrebel]

can u please come up with a step by step guide please

[ANB]

I'll risk some time and cash to give a hope to us up in Canada, I think I'll order one tonight and see what I can make of it. Probably won't arrive for a couple of days, once it does I'll try it right away and post back with results.



Seb

What city in Canada are you from? If you're from Edmonton, would you like to split the shipping charges?

[viper99]

I'm located in Canada on the Rogers network.

I got my Turbo sim today.

I have a Razor v1 and the latest Razor motokrzr k1. Both have usb modem abilty but both get this error when doing this command: turbo-info -d\\.\com6

initialzing modem
modem initiated
SEND: 01 029100110000810004FF0110
ANS AT+CMGW=9
>
ANS 029100110000810004FF0110
ERROR

Mobile Phone/Serial Cable Communication Error

Has anyone programmed the Turbo Sim using a cell phone? I know ozbimmer got his Turbo Sim working with iPhone but I think he used a real programmer that Bladox sells for like a $120.

Has anyone programmed a Turbo sim with a cell phone and if so what one?

[Zf_]

MetalRat should definitely be appointed official tutorial writer :D

viper, can you run it with the -v option and post all the logs ?

[Focher]

Do you need to use the Turbo SIM / AT&T SIM combination every time you power on the phone? Or is it something you can use to set the phone to allow the usage of any SIM permanently (unless you do a full restore on the iPhone).

I am just wondering if I can use the TurboSIM method to unlock other people's phones.

[Zf_]

one per iPhone, sorry :) (it has to fool the radio at each powerup)

[jalexuk]

one per iPhone, sorry :) (it has to fool the radio at each powerup)
Am I right in thinking that once you have the TSIM set up to work with your iPhone, the local carrier's SIM you piggyback onto it is totally transparent to the iPhone?
In other words, providing I have cut them down to size to fit, I could swap as many SIMs as I wanted to in and out of the TSIM itself so when I'm travelling I can put in, say, my Swiss Orange SIM instead of my UK O2 SIM without needing to change any settings in the iphone at all except the EDGE settings?

[viper99]

MetalRat should definitely be appointed official tutorial writer :D

viper, can you run it with the -v option and post all the logs ?

Hi Zf_,

Here is the log with the -v option.

C:\turbo-cable-utils-0.7.0\bin-win32>turbo-info -v -d\\.\com6
initializing modem
1 -> ATV1
1 <- ATV1
OK
1 -> ATE1
1 <- ATE1
OK
1 -> AT+CPMS="SM","SM"
1 <- AT+CPMS="SM","SM"
+CPMS: 0,703,0,703
OK
1 -> AT+CMGF=0
1 <- AT+CMGF=0
OK
1 -> AT+CPMS?
1 <- AT+CPMS?
+CPMS: "SM",0,703,"SM",0,703,"SM",0,703
OK
modem initiated
SEND: 01 029100110000810004FF0110→
1 -> AT+CMGW=9
1 <- AT+CMGW=9
>
ANS AT+CMGW=9
>
1 -> 029100110000810004FF0110→
1 <- 029100110000810004FF0110
ERROR
ANS 029100110000810004FF0110
ERROR

Mobile Phone/Serial Cable Communication Error

C:\turbo-cable-utils-0.7.0\bin-win32>

I hope it's just a setting I can change so that i can write to the Turbo sim via the Razor.

Thanks

[xmashedpotatox]

Viper:

Why can't you SSH into the iPhone to program it? (See page 2 of the thread).

[viper99]

Viper:

Why can't you SSH into the iPhone to program it? (See page 2 of the thread).

i would need a more detailed how to....those instructions are for people that know more about loging via ssh. Programming via cell phone modem is quick and easy if we know what model cell works.

[xmashedpotatox]

i would need a more detailed how to....those instructions are for people that know more about loging via ssh. Programming via cell phone modem is quick and easy if we know what model cell works.

At least you have an alternative if the RAZR method doesn't pan out ;).

Did you order your TurboSIM from Bladox as well? I am interested in trying this method as I am certain the SuperSIM method won't work on our Rogers SIMs which are all V2.

[viper99]

Yes I ordered it from Bladox. I do have a v1 rogers sim card but I rather use the Turbo sim method.

[xmashedpotatox]

Is it the Rogers AT&T card? I heard a few sources say that there never were any comp128V1 cards for Rogers...

I am sure many of us Canadians would be eager to know if this is true :).

[linc]

Mine is working fine with Vodafone Australia.. I programmed it with a Nokia 6230i over bluetooth (From VMware). Calls, SMS, and GRPS all work fine.

Linc.

[ANB]

Was your Vodafone SIM a V1 or V2, V3, etc?

[babak]

Hey could everyone that does this successfully or unsuccessfully also say whether they have a V1, V2 or V3 SIM? That way others won't have to ask after. Thanks!

[Cracker]

Hey linc,

How did you go with the at&t sim physical contacts problem oz mentioned?

Did you just put it in your iphone and hope for the best?

Also what is the best tool used to cut your sim? Any tips on that, that is probably the most scary part out of the whole thing for me.

btw vodafone is usually v2/v3 sim.

[SebSter85]

@viper99, what part of Canada are you from, and where did you get your TurboSIM from? Did you order it through their website? Their express shipment option is pretty much double the cost of the SIM itself, so Im trying to find a local alternative... I guess if I have no choice Ill order it but preferably Ill find something around here

[linc]

Hey linc,

How did you go with the at&t sim physical contacts problem oz mentioned?

Did you just put it in your iphone and hope for the best?

Also what is the best tool used to cut your sim? Any tips on that, that is probably the most scary part out of the whole thing for me.

btw vodafone is usually v2/v3 sim.

I had no problem with the physical contacts on the AT&T Sim - worked fine in the iPhone as well as the nokia, with no issue - so basically I chopped the AT&T SIM, put it with the turbo SIM into the nokia, programmed it, then chopped my voda sim and put it all into the iPhone.. then changed the APN in the settings application and it just worked. I didn't need to deactivate/reactivate at all (I'd previously hacked the activation with the AT&T SIM, NOT the Vodafone one).

As for cutting it, I used a really sharp stanley knife. Rather than trying to cut it all in one go i did a succession of smaller cuts, to make sure there wan't too much pressure trying to split the plastic. I also cut a little smaller than needed, then shaved extra plastic off the SIM to make sure it fit snugly with the turbo SIM in the holder.

Vodafone use either COMP128v2 or v3 - not sure which, but definitely not v1. But that is irrelevant to this method, as encryption requests go straight to the SIM.

Linc.

[linc]

I've also had a few requests asking how I uploaded the code using the 6320i, so here goes:

1) Cut your AT&T SIM, and fit it with the turbo sim in the nokia
2) Download applesaft from http://www.bladox.com/pub/applesaft-0.92.tar.gz , and the cable utils from: http://www.bladox.com/pub/turbo-cable-utils-0.7.0.tar.gz . Extract the files into a folder, and drop applesaft.trb from the bin/ folder in the applesaft archive into the bin-win32 folder from the turbo cable utils folder
3) Use bluetooth to pair the phone with your computer (or use a cable)
4) In the bluetooth settings, look for the COM port that got mapped to 'COM1'/Serial on your phone (Its the one thats not labeled as PC Suite)
5) CD to the bin-win32 folder in a command prompt, and run 'turbo-app -dx applesaft.trb' (replace the x with the number of the COM port, i.e -d8 for COM8)
6) Wait for the info to be loaded, make sure there are no errors. If there is, try to identify and try again
7) Go to the 'Turbo' menu on the nokia, then to applesaft, and then set to set the IMSI
8) You can now remove the turbo sim from the nokia, set it up with your carriers sim, and put it in the iphone.
9) Change the APN in the Settings application on the phone/General/Network/EDGE to suit your carrier
10) Enjoy!


Also, you can do it on the phone itself if you have SSH installed - details here: http://www.bladox.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=542&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=195

Linc.

[italianjob]

Hi, sorry for the apparently silly question, but it really is not clear to me which kind of activation is required for the turbosim to work correctly. For instance I know of two different kinds of activations:
-DVD Jon's fake server (the one on windows that requires to modify iTunes);
-Anderson's command line utility for mac (the one I used, just a simple command from the Terminal when iPhone is connected via USB and iTunes is not modified at all).

Will the activations described above be ok towards using Turbosim? What about other kinds of activations that I don't know about?
Thanks to anybody who can answer clearly to this question.

Italianjob

[linc]

Hi, sorry for the apparently silly question, but it really is not clear to me which kind of activation is required for the turbosim to work correctly. For instance I know of two different kinds of activations:
-DVD Jon's fake server (the one on windows that requires to modify iTunes);
-Anderson's command line utility for mac (the one I used, just a simple command from the Terminal when iPhone is connected via USB and iTunes is not modified at all).

Will the activations described above be ok towards using Turbosim? What about other kinds of activations that I don't know about?
Thanks to anybody who can answer clearly to this question.

Italianjob

I could be wrong, but I don't think the activation method matters - as long as the IMSI matches the AT&T SIM you use to set turbosim/applesaft up with.

For the record, I used Anserson's method, and it worked fine.

[p9939068]

Hi, sorry for the apparently silly question, but it really is not clear to me which kind of activation is required for the turbosim to work correctly. For instance I know of two different kinds of activations:
-DVD Jon's fake server (the one on windows that requires to modify iTunes);
-Anderson's command line utility for mac (the one I used, just a simple command from the Terminal when iPhone is connected via USB and iTunes is not modified at all).

Will the activations described above be ok towards using Turbosim? What about other kinds of activations that I don't know about?
Thanks to anybody who can answer clearly to this question.

Italianjob
This is one of the key questions, and nobody seems to give a satisfactory answer. Many people simply refer to hacktheiphone.com, which is rather silly and obviously quite useless, since it lists 7 different methods on the site.

I now know that the activation you previously used must not brick the radio. I believe the official AT&T activation way is one. How about iASign using the AT&T SIM's ICCID? What happens if you use a pre-patched lockdownd?


I could be wrong, but I don't think the activation method matters - as long as the IMSI matches the AT&T SIM you use to set turbosim/applesaft up with.

For the record, I used Anserson's method, and it worked fine.
Perhaps you meant the activations method AFTER inserting the SIM? How about before? Was your phone de-activated before you port your SIM over, or was it already activated (using anderson in your case), and you never had to de-activate it.

[linc]

This is one of the key questions, and nobody seems to give a satisfactory answer. Many people simply refer to hacktheiphone.com, which is rather silly and obviously quite useless, since it lists 7 different methods on the site.

I now know that the activation you previously used must not brick the radio. I believe the official AT&T activation way is one. How about iASign using the AT&T SIM's ICCID? What happens if you use a pre-patched lockdownd?



Perhaps you meant the activations method AFTER inserting the SIM? How about before? Was your phone de-activated before you port your SIM over, or was it already activated (using anderson in your case), and you never had to de-activate it.

I don't believe any activation method 'bricks' the radio - they fool with the software on the phone, not in the baseband. I could well be wrong though, can anyone provide more info on this?

Also the iASign and anderson methods seem to be similar (the same? generating a activation record signed with a new certificate).

Actually now I look at it, I used the iASign method - with the AT&T SIM that came with the phone itself, then used that SIM to load the IMSI into the Turbo SIM. No activation was required after after inserting my carriers SIM with the turbo sim - i'm assuming the imsi was read at boot (which would have returned the at&t imsi), and then it stopped checking

As for the patched lockdownd, i don't know what would happen - but worst case, you could replace it with the original then use iasign.

Linc.

[Edreamsz]

I also still have not found a solution for my problem:

I have no original ATT card (No it's not in the SIM Holder)

I CAN do the following:


Place the turbo sim on my non-att card

Run applesaft via SSH on the Iphone and the NEW ISA app found on bladox)

Change ICCID (Is stated on the iPhone Purchase BOX)
Change IMSI (to a custom one, only first digits are required)


then:


Partially unlock the iPhone to use the ATT custom ICCID and IMSI that i used. (In other words another NON-IPhone ATT/Cingular SIM)


Any chance that this will work?

[ozbimmer]

p9939068: Since i am using windows, the method that works for me is http://www.hacktheiphone.com/iphone_first_ten_steps_to_modding_mac.html (Stage 1) and http://www.hacktheiphone.com/iphone_using_cingular_for_windows.html (Stage 2). If you use Mac choose the appropriate method that you are comfortable with. The end result is the same: activate the iphone.

I doubt these activation method would "brick" the iphone. Come to the worst just restore the firmware.

My iphone has been activated prior to the TurboSIM method using the ICCID of the included AT&T sim card.

[jadajada]

Just to be clear:

This requires you to *cut* both the AT&T sim and your providers sim so they can fit into the TurboSim?

Does this make those two sims unusable as regular sims afterwards? So if this goes south, the At&T sim is broken?

[newtothis]

ozbimmer please help!!!

I am sitting here in Ireland with the Turbo Sim and have got as far the chmod part but have no idea what to do next. How do get it to execute?

I dont understand the part where it says "chmod a+x" etc??

[jadajada]

The command

chmod a+x /directory/file

makes the file 'file' exucutable so you can run it with the command:

/directory/file

or if you are standing in /directory you can run it with:

./file

[newtothis]

- ssh to your phone, set the executable permission to turbo-app (chmod a+x /opt/bladox/turbo-app) and run it with /opt/bladox/turbo-app /tmp/applesaft.trb. It should take approximately 30 seconds and you shouldn't see any error.

Its the above that I am getting stuck on. I ssh the phone again and then type chmod a+x/opt/bladox/turbo-app and get a big nothing ! :(

[ptan218]

Wouldn't it be nice if we can order TurboSIM with the applesaft already preloaded? Can we make such a request during our order? At least this will enable dummy like me to enjoy iphone on my shore without worrying about how to upload applesaft or what phone to use to programmed it... :p

[ozbimmer]

I agree. However Bladox has stated it won't do such thing.

[ptan218]

Before I place my order for the TurboSIM, can I conclude that TurboSIM will allows iphone to work with my existing non-ATT sim?

Thanks and cheers

[xbrillx]

Hi,

Thanks for all the info on the turbo sim method everyone.

Can I check something - on my iPhone I dont see the directory /opt/

Do I need to create this directory in the root, then place the bladox folder in there ?

Thanks in advance.

[linc]

Just to be clear:

This requires you to *cut* both the AT&T sim and your providers sim so they can fit into the TurboSim?

Does this make those two sims unusable as regular sims afterwards? So if this goes south, the At&T sim is broken?



The cut sims still fit fine in all the phones I've tried them, and look like they'd still work fine in pretty much any phone

[viper99]

@viper99, what part of Canada are you from, and where did you get your TurboSIM from? Did you order it through their website? Their express shipment option is pretty much double the cost of the SIM itself, so Im trying to find a local alternative... I guess if I have no choice Ill order it but preferably Ill find something around here


Halifax, from Badox, got it in 2 days.

[viper99]

Hey linc,

How did you go with the at&t sim physical contacts problem oz mentioned?

Did you just put it in your iphone and hope for the best?

Also what is the best tool used to cut your sim? Any tips on that, that is probably the most scary part out of the whole thing for me.

btw vodafone is usually v2/v3 sim.

I had the same problem....all I did was cut a tiny piece of paper maybe 4mm by 4mm and placed it under the att sim card so you have the iphone sim holder then the tiny piece of paper then the turbo sim and place it in the iphone and it makes it a bit tighter fit and makes contact, works everytime.

[ANB]

viper99

So did you actually get the TurboSIM working with your iPhone?

[MetalRat]

You stupid git.. this will have no affect on the share price. It will help Apple sell more iPhones, not less, and even then only a tiny fraction of people will want to go through the hassle of cutting up their SIM card and doing all these arcane things with their iPhones.

Christ, stick to discussing the TSIM and not promoting your stupid ideas on trading shares will you? There's a Yahoo Finance Board with your name on it if you want to troll.

lol! :D

Nice.

[italianjob]

Thank you linc for the quick and useful reply.

So it is safe to affirm: «Before inserting the TurboSIM with applesaft loaded +ATTsim in your iPhone you should have activated your iPhone, meaning you need to have a functional iPhone except for sim-lock, i.e. you are able to make emergency calls».

If any other step is required, for instance iAsign preferences writing or something different it was given for granted in the tutorial, could we please explain it for everybody so that once it is clear we will be able to provide a full step by step, ignorant proof, guide to using turbosim, taking an idiot like me from the moment of unpacking the iPhone to the moment it works with my non att sim?

thanks again to everybody for the very useful turbosim method: I ordered TS from Bladox, shipping in Italy, and will keep you updated if it works in my country too.

Ciao!

[babak]

Does anyone familiar with this know if and how Apple would be able to undo these actions and make the iPhone understand that it is not really using an ATT SIM? Would this be doable for Apple on current iPhones as well or only future production?

Thanks!

[jalexuk]

Does anyone familiar with this know if and how Apple would be able to undo these actions and make the iPhone understand that it is not really using an ATT SIM? Would this be doable for Apple on current iPhones as well or only future production?
Thanks!
In short: don't update your iPhone with any "upgrades" Apple offer via iTunes until you've read on these forums that it won't ruin the effectiveness of your lovely precious TSIM :D

[viper99]

Just tried to programm my turbo sim with a Nokia 6085 and get the same error as with my other 2 Razor phones.

Someone reported success with a Nokia 6230i so I thought maybe all the Nokia's would be better luck - not.

People....start reporting what cell phone you used to program your turbo sim with.

[RVN84]

viper, have you posted on the bladox forum? or given them a call? I think it is more of an issue with the turbosim than something specific to the iphone, they are more well suited to help you.

[p9939068]

I have written a detailed tutorial which does not require you to use another phone to write the TurboSIM. It uses ZF_'s native binaries for the iPhone itself, and has been confirmed to work by deFa:
http://iphone.simbunch.com/turbosim.php

Good luck

[viper99]

viper, have you posted on the bladox forum? or given them a call? I think it is more of an issue with the turbosim than something specific to the iphone, they are more well suited to help you.

It's not an issue with the Turbo sim or the iPhone...in order to program the Turbo Sim with a cell phone, the cell phone needs to be used as a modem to upload the applesaft.trb program onto the turbo sim card, the problem isthat some/most cell phones don't support the full modem AT commands and also some/most cell phones can't write/store sms to the sim card, they store it to the cell phones memory, so the applesaft.trb program never reaches the Turbo Sim.

The Nokia 6230i has been reported to work.

[Warmingup]

At what rate do you expect data to be charged? Is there a way to bulk buy or a capped plan?

[Deoneo]

Quick question,

Does any AT&T sim work for making the Turbosim? or we need the AT&T sim that come with iPhone only..

Thanks,

[jomo]

Hallo,
today I get my TSIMs. I do all the stepes described in the internet... ...and I get my iphone running with t-mobile. But after a while (30 to 60 sec) the signal went down and and NO SERVICE appears top left. There seems to be no way to get service back. I have to switch off the iphone. I tried another phone with no problems. Anybody can help?

[Mr SID]

Sorry to ask, if this has already been said, but:

Has anyone used the Turbosim with a recent (i.e. within a year or 2 old) VODAFONE UK sim card?

Wanting to make sure this works in the UK before I invest in an iphone!

Thanks!