Sim V1.0 in Switzerland

[bertolla]

Hi there,
Where I can found or ask for these Sim Cards.
Actually I have a Orange Card from 2005 or 2006!
If I ask Orange to send me a other is this legal or what is the best way?
Is it possible to see without programming if the Sim Card will be work?
Thanks for your help!

[jkenzo]

Ciao bertolla

I had the same problem. I have an Orange account and I asked for a v1 SIM, but no chance to get one. Then I went to the Swisscom store and I told them that I need urgent an v1 sim, because I have a special phone etc.. So they told me that they will send me an SIM card from 1997 and it will be v1 :) but I have to make a new contract.. thats my story!

Bertolla, I have lost my AT&T Sim, where are you from exactley? If the data on the Card from AT&T has nothing to do with the used carrier, can you borrow me your card?

[pidec]

hi guys

i got a sim card of sunrise (year 2003-2004 or so)

where can i check if this card is a V1? As morge, i'm having an orange card (Year 2006)

Und jetzt noch auf Deutsch::)

Ich habe noch ne SIM-Card von Sunrise aus dem Jahr 2003 oder 2004. Ich weiss nicht, könnte man damit was anfangen?

Oder wie sieht es aus wenn wir ne Prepay-SIM von Orange aus dem Jahr 2003 oder 04 kaufen würden. ich denke da an ebay oder ricardo?

Ich würde evtl. meine SIM zur Verfügung stellen...:rolleyes:

Great work Dev -Team!!!!

Greetz from Switzerland

[matt77]

Hi

All carriers don't want give you an old card !! Now all the shops have 3G card only !

For they give you an old card, you need a story ;) that's worked fine for me :

You need to call your carriers, just say, "i broke my 3G phone, i want to use my old phone ( may be 10 years ;) ) and the 3G card doesn't work with it, i called the manufactury (nokia or ...) they answer me "the card had too much power for your old phone !"
so please give me a card who work's with my old phone"
they can't refuse that !

;)

[shark699]

great idea to ask for a old sim - if you got it, please inform us about how if supersim will work!

[situ]

I had different calls with the "big" telecom in Switzerland. They stopped giving out the V1 cards about 6-7 years ago, when they stopped production and now with data services exchanged most of them. The old V1 cards have since then been handed out upon client request. It seems that now they haven't got any unactivated V1 cards left.

According to the information I got from the technician it has to be a 5V COMP128V1 card, wich either has never been activated or still is active. They will not be able to reactivate any deactivated V1 cards.

Well, we'll have to try to get the KI from them, if they have it...

[Phocusrs]

Hi guys from Switzerland,

I've ask to my provider... the historical one to send me an additionnal card for the same number and they send me an 'Natel D' old sim card from year 1997.
We (freind and me) hope to receive our Infinity USB un. and 4 silver card soon. We've also order Turbo one. Let's try to unlock with both method, but I think I'll choose silver card and my friend the Turbo.
As soon as we achieve the unlock I'll let you know dude from switzerland what I've made and share my experience.
If someone has already made successfully the Silver Card unlock process or the Trubo one MP me.

Thank to all you guys who guide us in this Iphone experience.

Phocus RS

[situ]

Phocusrs

What provider did you ask?

Myne says, they don't have any left. Maybe I need to switch...

Thanks!

[Phocusrs]

I've putted some hint but can't you see it...
ok, it's like the country where I live and cut it a bit and concatenate a short word for 'COMmunication'...
Friend of mine have ask to Orange, but I'm going to try also Turbo method....
MP me if you want more details!

[sanda]

hi

i might be able to get my hands on an old swisscom sim from a friend of mine. But, i'm not sure if i can use my current orange number or will i have to use the swisscom number related to the old v1 simcard after the magic is done?

cheers

[Phocusrs]

Hi Sanda,

First of all you need to reactivate this sim card but the easiest way is to ask the original provider to do it Swisscom in this case.



Regards

Phocus RS

[situ]

I guess I wasn't as lucky as you guys were...

Swisscom wouldn't reactivate an old V1 SIM. They said, they would send me a new one.

They told me, that I had two possibilities:

1. Get a SIM V1, that has never been activated
2. Get an activated SIM V1 and transfer it to my name

Well, I'll try again tomorrow and make them dizzy...

Thanks Phocus RS for your help!

[Assad]

hi

i might be able to get my hands on an old swisscom sim from a friend of mine. But, i'm not sure if i can use my current orange number or will i have to use the swisscom number related to the old v1 simcard after the magic is done?

cheers

You can use your orange number without any problem if you do a new contract with Swisscom BUT you'll need to cancel your contract with orange there is a 3 month notice and if you are on a minimum duration contract you are gonna pay something like 400.- ...

but anyway if you are not on 2 years contract with orange ... just contact swisscom and tell them you want a new contract with them and a V1 sim or your friend's sim :) .. they'll take care of everything :)

hope it helps

[SenS]

Sunrise SIM's before 2005 should work...

Greez us züri ;p

[Gmany007]

Hello
I have tried to get a V1 SIM Card from sunrise. I have told them I use this card for my old phone. But they wrote my that there is no way to get a V1 Card. Thats a pity, because i have lost mi old Diax SIM Card 3 month ago:mad:
Maybee I try to get a V1 Card from swisscom...

[jkenzo]

Peops, I have good friends working for Orange and Swisscom. Orange: no chance to get an v1, Swisscom: If you tell them you need a old SIM, they can send you an Natel D Sim from 1997, and this should work. I have recived my card, and it was funny, because you have to cut the card :) - Now, I'm strongly waiting for my Silvercard, they told me would be here today, but: Nothing yet.. Let's wait for next week.

IS SOMEBODY LIVING NEAR OLTEN WITH A WORKING IPHONE / CARDREADER AND WRITER??

[migone]

Peops, I have good friends working for Orange and Swisscom. Orange: no chance to get an v1, Swisscom: If you tell them you need a old SIM, they can send you an Natel D Sim from 1997, and this should work. I have recived my card, and it was funny, because you have to cut the card :) - Now, I'm strongly waiting for my Silvercard, they told me would be here today, but: Nothing yet.. Let's wait for next week.

IS SOMEBODY LIVING NEAR OLTEN WITH A WORKING IPHONE / CARDREADER AND WRITER??


Did you already tried to extract KI from your swisscom's card ?

[DrNiiken]

Hey folks !

Awesome ... a Swiss Thread, cool !
Motivating indeed not to be alone here in Switzerland with an iPhone :)

At the moment it seems that the Supersim solution looks quite promising.
Thus I'll try to get one, too and the necessary hardware.

Since I still have an old Nokia 2110 (http://www.retrobrick.com/21102.html) somewhere, Swisscom should be convinced to give me a V1 SIM :D

Looking forward to hearing from your experiences with SIM unlocking/using the phone in Heidi Land !


Keep up the good fight Dev Team !!!
Great work ...


Greetings from ZH

[jkenzo]

Did you already tried to extract KI from your swisscom's card ?

Not yet, because I don't have a cardreader now. I will try hopefully this weekend..

[dornbirn2000]

hi guys,

I have just found an old diax pronto 2000 simcard. i don´t remember when I got this simcard (Probably in 2000 or 2001). Just tried to get the Ki and it worked! It took nearly 2 hours until I had the full Ki. To bad it is not activ anymore :( . If I´m right former diax is sunrise nowadays.

[Gmany007]

yes diAx is now sunrise. but if the card deactivated you have no chance to reactivate them. i have the same problem.

[migone]

I've succeded to extract KI on a sunrise sim card. Please follow this thread for more information. http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2448&page=3

12/2005 and it works !!! (prepaid card)

A friend of mine can provide me sunrise card 2004, 2005. (for new plan)

I'm living in Lausanne. Anybody is interested ?

[Phocusrs]

My provider is Swisscom and they send me an old sim card.
I've now Infinity USB unlimited and 4 sliver cards...
The problem is that the old card, I cannot extract the IMSI, ICCID and KI:mad: .
If I take my current one V3, then I can get all information except KI, error message telling that is no 128... compliant.
If someone has achieve to get the KI with an Swisscom SIM card, I'm very interesting.
Now I'm trying to find out which SIM card works and which not.
I don't know if they have not V1 card, the old one was from 1997....
Ten years, I assume that is old enough...
If someone has made a working supersim in Swizterland, can he MP me.

Thank you.

[situ]

I ordered a Silver Card this week (wich will hopefully arrive soon), have a card reader and am looking for a never activated Swisscom Card V1 (tried a lot yesterday, but they wouldn't give me one). I will try at the shops again on Monday.
If I don't find one, I would be interested in a Sunrise prepaid card for the moment. Maybe anyone can help me out?

Thank you in advance!

[Gmany007]

yes, maybe i can help you to find a sunrise prepayd v1 card.
i schoolfriend of me works for sunrise, and sometimes they become prepay cards.
he told me that i can get some cards. i have tried to contact him, but till now i havent heard from you. on ricardo you could also buy old cards, a seller from thurgau have a lot od different cards.
if anyone interessted for sunrise cards, maybe i could organise for you.

[situ]

Hey, I'm sorry. Was away til today.

Of course I'd be interested in a Sunrise card, 'till there is a solution for those V2 Swisscom bothered among us...

I'll PM you my contact information.

Thanks, Situ

[mullo]

i'm looking for a an old V1 sim to.. where did you find the hardware devices and the right silvercard? In Ricardo i couldnt find any V1 Cards

[jkenzo]

@Pohocusres: Shit, so you are sure that there's no way to get this card working? do you recived a card that you had to cut out because it was not precutted? I have recived an Natel D card, cutted of myself, and then tried to make calls, working! Do you have puttet your card in a cell to test or better activate?

[Gmany007]

@ mullo
hardware devices
card reader/wrighter
http://www.satdiscount.ch/start/pd1079887043.htm?defaultVariants={EOL}&categoryId=88
silver card
http://www.satdiscount.ch/start/pd1088070621.htm?defaultVariants={EOL}&categoryId=89
Im still working to get some v1 cards.

I know because the cards from ricardo. I think the cards with the larger chip (you can see that on the pics) are v1 cards. but Im not sure!!!

[bullyme]

Hi

I could manage to find out my KI of my current SIM card :cool:, i have Card-R/W since long and also some cards, but they are all AT-Controller based. :mad:

I ordered some PIC2-Controller Cards (Silvercards), but they will arrive this week, but i realy want to test it asap. :rolleyes:

So it would be very cool to find someone near Zurich, who can help me with a silvercard. I pay or i'll give replacement.

BR
bullyme

[Gmany007]

I have spoken withe this guy from ricardo (which sell allmost all SIMs in Rycardo). Tha SIM Card doesnt correspondent with the cards which He have displayed. He have only new cards. Dont buy from him!

[situ]

So. It looks like I will get an old 5V card from Swisscom finally. At least, that's what they told me today after many calls and visits at a few Swisscom Shops... We will see...

[mullo]

what did you tell them to get a old one?? my problem is.. i lost my phone with an old sim from beginning of 2004... they shuttet down the old sim card.. but know i got the phone back.. and got a new sim card to.... know i have the active new sim card and my other mobilephone with the old card.. would it work if they reactivate my old sim card??

[jkenzo]

mullo, try but I think this reactivation process doesn't work!!

[sanda]

hi

it seems that there's no longer any need for a crappy v1 card. according to these threads http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2626 and http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2619&page=2 the iphone is fully unlocked for all carriers with v2 and v3 cards. more and more confirmations are beeing posted...

anybody interest in a cumulative order? pm me.

cheers

[situ]

Hey Sanda

As I have ordered 2 silvercards yesterday and already have a card-reader/-writer, I'll give Sw.. 'till the end of the week to send me a V1 card and give the supersim-method a try.
If I don't get the card or the method doesn't work here - I'll order a TS. But it might be a to long wait for you...

greetz

[jkenzo]

Sanda, if I understand right, this is like an adapter where you put both simcards in it and put it back in the iphone? I have lost my at&t sim, so it will not work for me? Cheers

[migone]

I'm very glad to announce that my iphone is working with sunrise network (pre-paid card dated of 12.2005
SMS in/out work
Call in/out work
EDGE work
Youtube work

I want to thank member PHUCUSRS for his help, he has provided me silvercard and was present for the first run with supersim.

[Assad]

Sanda, if I understand right, this is like an adapter where you put both simcards in it and put it back in the iphone? I have lost my at&t sim, so it will not work for me? Cheers

I'am afraid that you need a AT&T card in order to get the IMSEI and the ICCID form it... for the moment all the solution have seen need a AT&T....

maybe you can ask someone to send you a prepaid AT&T card (i think it coast 40$)

[SenS]

some one near zurich who has the necessarily hardware to unlock?
if its possible please write me a PM :)

[mullo]

do i get a sim card from at&t when i order the iphone at apple.com ??

[jkenzo]

yes, its inside the phone

[situ]

Well, I guess bad luck for us Swisscom-clients. I talked to 3 people at the simcard-centre today and they all confirmed me: NO OLD V1 simcards left there. They're now trying to find me one at the different technicians desks...
I am also trying to find a used active/inactive V1 card from the same HLR segment (position 12 and 13 of the ICCID). If I find such a card, they could reactivate it on my number... puah - not easy.
I will let them search 'till the beginning of next week and then order a Turbo-sim, as I don't really want to spend the time searching for cards...

[SenS]

Try the TurboSIM Method...

[situ]

Sorry about the same question in this thread.
Anyone able to give me a ICCID of a working active / inactive Swisscom Card? I need it to be able to get a SIM from Swisscom (if I'm lucky a HLR21).
Thanks for your PMs or better e-Mails...
Situ

[Phocusrs]

Hi all Swiss people...
My Swisscom Iphone work perfectly...
Call In/out ok
SMS In/out ok
Edge ok
Youtube ok
....
I've also install some application like voice recorder, NES, terminal and Finder...
A v5 Swisscom Sim card? Yes, but with TURBO SIM...
Rules Bladox...
Special thanks for Migone and Jacoch for their help and support...

If you need help for Turbo or Supersim method I can help...:) :) :) :)

[webbah]

Hey mate,

Where are you located in Switzerland? I am in Geneva. Waiting for my TurboSIM now... Ahhh the agony!!! Happy for you.



Hi all Swiss people...
My Swisscom Iphone work perfectly...
Call In/out ok
SMS In/out ok
Edge ok
Youtube ok
....
I've also install some application like voice recorder, NES, terminal and Finder...
A v5 Swisscom Sim card? Yes, but with TURBO SIM...
Rules Bladox...
Special thanks for Migone and Jacoch for their help and support...

If you need help for Turbo or Supersim method I can help...:) :) :) :)

[jacoch]

Well, I guess bad luck for us Swisscom-clients. I talked to 3 people at the simcard-centre today and they all confirmed me: NO OLD V1 simcards left there. They're now trying to find me one at the different technicians desks...
I am also trying to find a used active/inactive V1 card from the same HLR segment (position 12 and 13 of the ICCID). If I find such a card, they could reactivate it on my number... puah - not easy.
I will let them search 'till the beginning of next week and then order a Turbo-sim, as I don't really want to spend the time searching for cards...

Interesting. I have an old Swisscom V1 card (2001) and have been able to extract KI (I even have a 99 card, but it's unreadable). And the Swisscom support told me they can't reactivate it, although I'm sure the number has not been given again, as I transfered it to my Orange account. Will try to insist. Would be best to use a swisscom prepay card than the Sunrise card I'm currently using. Unfortunately, I can't find an Orange card. The oldest I found yet is dated 2002 and I just succeeded in destroying it.

[Phocusrs]

Jacoch the only way for the moment is the turbo sim solution for non v1 SIM card... If you are lucky find a SIM card between 2000 to 2002 Swisscom card... that the only extractitable SIM card for the KI then Supersim.
Otherwise no choice... Turbo or nothing...

[jacoch]

Jacoch the only way for the moment is the turbo sim solution for non v1 SIM card... If you are lucky find a SIM card between 2000 to 2002 Swisscom card... that the only extractitable SIM card for the KI then Supersim.
Otherwise no choice... Turbo or nothing...

That's what I'm saying above. I DO have a V1 swisscom, but it's unactivated. And support told me it's not possible to activate again. But they said the opposite to situ. That's why I'm surprised and will try to insist. Currently, I have a V1 from Sunrise working fine. I also have V1 from Orange 2002, but they stop working when trying to extract KI. So for Orange, it must be a 2001 card.

[situ]

jacoch
Swisscom seems to be able to reactivate it, if it's in the same HLR segment as your current card (Position 12 and 13 of the ICCID must be equal to your actual ICCID.
I've had to go through many technicians to find one who still had a unactivated V1, because apparently they run out of them a few weeks ago. But it's almost impossible, I think...

[jacoch]

I see. It's a lot of conditions finally. And I would prefer to have a solution for my Orange account. But finding 2001 cards from Orange seems very difficult. Just hope Geohot really did it. Would fix our problems :-)

[situ]

jacoch
I have a very old inactivated Orange-Sim. Maybe this could help. I have to check, if I stll know people over at Orange thatcould be helpful.

[jacoch]

jacoch
I have a very old inactivated Orange-Sim. Maybe this could help. I have to check, if I stll know people over at Orange thatcould be helpful.

Would be great. I have a friend that can help me. I already searched his stock. But the oldest he found was dated 0302. And I bricked 2 of them. The manufacturing date is written on the sim itself. It's the second line of the serial (from the top). So if it's xx01, it's great and worth a try. Otherwise, no chance. Any luck?

[situ]

jacoch
I'm trying to find it. Maybe I have it at the office. If I don't find it, I'll reply tomorrow morning.

[jacoch]

jacoch
I'm trying to find it. Maybe I have it at the office. If I don't find it, I'll reply tomorrow morning.

Great. Thanks in advance for your effort.

[situ]

jacoch:
Bad news. The card is not readable anymore (scratched). I'm very sorry.

[jacoch]

No problem. Thanks for trying. I'll wait for the unlock with the sunrise card. I admit I was expecting a much worse network than it actually is. Although I didn't test in anywhere else than cities yet.