Notice for Australians [Archive]

wombat

08-08-2007, 09:18 AM

Hi guys,

I can't guarantee this information personally, as my sim card writer is still in transit from Hong Kong, but I just got off the phone with firstly Telstra HQ, and secondly a local Telstra Shop.

Telstra HQ can't give me any information about the version of the sims, whether they be V1, V2, etc, but the local Telstra shop did a bit of research for me, and said that my 3G sim card is V1. The guy at the shop said that only the Next G sims, which are 3.5G are newer than V1.

I'll just say now that I haven't had the chance to confirm this yet, as my card writer hasn't arrived, but I thought I'd pass this info on to everyone as I heard it.

So, in summary, according to the Telstra shop, all sims which are earlier than Next G (3.5G), are supposedly V1. My 3G sim is from last year, and it is not Next G. It is apparently in the V1 pile also.

So all those people with old Telstra sims looking for an excuse to give it a try, go forth - but don't blame me if the Telstra shop was wrong - I'm just delivering the infomation ;)

-Adam

captaincool01

08-08-2007, 10:17 AM

Hey Adam,

Thanks for the info. My optus sim is about 2 years old so I'm hoping it's ok. where abouts are you? Should I get my own card reader/writer or are we all going to work together?

Cheers, Richard

wombat

08-08-2007, 11:01 AM

Hi Richard,

Not sure about your sim, can't say for sure with Optus. Though I did hear that they may be V1 a while back, and that only one of either Optus and Telstra was changing to a new card style. Seeing as though Telstra confirm a new card version, I would say there is a chance that Optus use V1.

Card writers are pretty cheap, you can buy one for about $20 or $30 from eBay, thanks to the magic that is Chinese imports via Hong Kong.

Just do a scan on eBay and you'll find what you're looking for ;)

Keep me posted ok mate, I'll let you know if I have any success too ok, and we can share any feedback via the forum here.

-Adam

jules

08-08-2007, 11:03 AM

But surely with a Telstra 3G SIM you aren't going to be able to use any of the data features on the iPhone (Email... web etc) as they are all EDGE which is the opposite of 3G.

I know my iPhone works (roaming with its AT&T SIM) here on Vodaphone so they obviously offer EDGE - does anyone know which other Australian networks offer EDGE over GSM?

Julian

wombat

08-08-2007, 11:17 AM

Julian,

Vodafone don't offer EDGE, only GPRS. The only Australian GSM network which offers EDGE is Telstra. The iPhone is GPRS capable.

EDGE has to do with data transfer services, such as browsing the web and receiving emails. Phone calls operate differently.

-Adam

dotmike

08-08-2007, 11:26 AM

The info is probably correct, as Ozbimmer, the guy who first (publicly) tried the SIM splicing method and spread the news to YouTube and Engadget, is Australian and mentioned Telstra.

But, wombat, did you actually tell them what you were intending to do? That may not be such a good idea, you know, telling a carrier's HQ that you were about to perform what Sam says is an illegal act on their network...

What did they think of your plans?

Wasn't Telstra ... quick Google search ... the one that said: "Apple, stick to your knitting"
http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/telstra-to-apple-stick-to-your-knitting/2007/02/15/1171405363291.html

The jerks might not like having your iPhone on their network!

But I really hope you don't end up in jail over it. What are the penalties of being caught SIM cloning in Australia?

True unlocking isn't that far away according to the iPhone Dev Wiki.

captaincool01

08-08-2007, 11:31 AM

Adam,

Thanks for the reply. I have a Infinity USB programmer that I used to do Austar and foxtel smartcards with years ago-- but I don't think I will be able to read write the sim because the sim won't slide into the enclosure.

Can you let me know how you go when you get it? Maybe we'll keep this thread open so we Ausralians can exchange notes/ideas.

Thanks again,

Richard

wombat

08-08-2007, 12:00 PM

dotmike,

Nah, course I didn't :) I had my own clever story... the advantages of which mean I can get a V1 from Telstra if I require it. Long story, I basically just said something which means that I can get a new sim card without telling them the real reason behind it. Not entirely honest, but it'll do.

Telstra have well and truly lost their chance at being the iPhone suppliers. Rumour is that it will be mobile company '3' - you know, those guys that always advertise on the cricket. Who knows, time will tell. I dare say Telstra were the favourites, but some arrogant old bugger has ruined their chances now. The problem with Telstra is they think they're bigger and badder than they really are. They are nothing compared with a company like Apple - they're small fish in a bigpond (yep, bigpond pun).

So, as far as Telstra's opinion of the plans I have specified to them, they think it's a great idea. They couldn't be happier.

Richard,

I hear the Infinity is the best. I think there is an adapter you can get - failing that, butcher an old Austar gold card and tape your sim card in place. Yep, sounds crude, but remember, all sim cards come like that before you or the network pull them out of their little enclosure to make them into mini sims.

I'll definitely keep you up to date about it mate. My card reader/writer is just a cheapie which looks like a usb dongle. It's hell cheap, but the technology behind V1 is so old now, that a dedicated V1 function reader/writer is dirt cheap and damn small.

I actually have laying around in a box somewhere in my house an old serial sim programmer. It's huge, but it's 3 or 4 years old, so no surprises there. I'll dig that out too and give it a go. All that I have to do is find a serial port....

Cheers guys.
-Adam

wombat

08-08-2007, 12:06 PM

Hey Richard,

If you'd like, once my card reader arrives, I can send out the sim card holder so that you can use mini sims in your large reader. My reader won't need it cause it's mini sim only, and I get a free sim with it still in holder. I can just cut it out surgically with a stanley blade and post it over to you if you like.

I expect it to arrive tomorrow, and no later than Friday. If you want it, just PM me your post address and I'll send it on.

This is what it will look like:
http://www.best-dcnet.com/usb_accessory/USB212/USB212_BDCN_002.jpg

Cheers.
-Adam

Cracker

08-08-2007, 02:23 PM

Is there an aussie place to get the Silversims?

captaincool01

08-08-2007, 02:35 PM

Tanks Adam-- That's a lovely offer. Let me know how you go with the usb dongle reader/writer-- if it does the job I might just buy one too.

I'll check back in the next few days and see how you go.

Goodluck mate

Richard

RealRoo

08-08-2007, 04:28 PM

Ok guys interesting.

1) couldn't wait for infinity USB. SO bought a kit from Jaycar and a few Silver cards.
Total about $60 for kit (and 2 hours to build) and $10 for cards.

Woronscan worked, can extract details. Cannot write with simemu configurator, but saved files and used IC-Prog.

Old optus SIM (several years) works:
Calls in/out
SMS in/out
No EDGE

New OPTUS - v2 no go.

Walked down to newsagent, bought BRAND NEW telstra sim on $25 pre-paid. It works fine too (v1):
Calls in/out
SMS in/out
EDGE - when you set APN correctly under Settings->Network->Edge.

BUT - Apparently $25 card ran out after 7 minutes use! Haven't checked account yet, but is there some weird billing occurring? I'll check tomorrow.

Other gotchas:
1) phone numbers incorrect format. - had a look around the file system, not immediately apparent how to fix this, some plist files have binary, some are text and some are mixed.
2) caller only matches in phonebookl if you use local format (02) 1234 5678, if you use +61 2 1234 5678 then caller id DOESN't Match!
So I presume the iPhone thinks it's USA and cannot understand a local call is from +61.
3) I no longer get SMS when a phone message is taken, so if I see a missed call, I need to call voice mail to check if they left a message - any ideas?
4) voicemail - no easy way to check, had to create a voicemail "contact" with 321 then I call that to access messages.

RealRoo

OH - and forgot to mention, no youtube.

wombat

08-08-2007, 06:38 PM

Walked down to newsagent, bought BRAND NEW telstra sim on $25 pre-paid. It works fine too (v1):
Calls in/out
SMS in/out
EDGE - when you set APN correctly under Settings->Network->Edge.

BUT - Apparently $25 card ran out after 7 minutes use! Haven't checked account yet, but is there some weird billing occurring? I'll check tomorrow.

You were expecting more talk time from Telstra? :) Good job identifying it mate, keep us posted about how it goes.

-Adam

mkt777

08-09-2007, 02:58 AM

okay, so now we know Telstra Sim Cards are v1. What about others

We know the new vodafone cards, and optus cards are not.

has anyone done any looking into Virgin Mobile or AAPT, or even 3?

So if anyone has any ideas as to which providers still use V1 Sims, can you let us know? thanks

captaincool01

08-09-2007, 06:11 AM

Hi Adam,

So do you think these cheap USB reader/writers have the same capabilities (or at least enough to do what we want) as the more expensive Infinity Unlimited?

Also, My Iphone should be here tomorrow/monday-- do you guys know if the 'unopened package' will include the at&t sim that i need to extract the info off?

Thanks again, Richard

Schismd

08-09-2007, 06:11 AM

RealRoo or anyone for that matter.

What Kit did you buy from Jaycar ? Just the USB Card writer/reader for $35 or is there another one ? All that lists on the jaycar website is -

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=XC5102&CATID=&keywords=Sim+reader&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

I don't see any reason as to why that won't work ? Does anyone ?

If it doesn't, then what should i get ?
Jaycar has a store around the corner from my work, so if anyone knows the answer let me know asap !

mbd

08-09-2007, 06:48 AM

cdrdingo

08-09-2007, 10:24 AM

Tried getting the Ki from my Next G sim card and looks like its not a V1 card. Got the message "The GSM algorithm is not comp128-1" Will try and get a Telstra prepaid card i think.

ominousboi

08-09-2007, 10:45 AM

hey guys i bought the kit from Jaycar as well
no idea how im going to put it together yet
i also have the silver sim

I'd be interested to know whether that little USB GSM reader writer from Jaycar would work though! that would make life a lot easier!

anyone have any clue?

TheGuide

08-09-2007, 11:00 AM

I have a simple USB sim reader I got from hong kong, anyone know what software is good to use, cos what came on the cd dont work!

Any ideas? Anyone got there sim reader working on the gold coast/brissy area care to help me get mine working?

TG :D

TheGuide

08-09-2007, 12:28 PM

Yeah it comes with an AT&T sim card installed. I got my iphone in the USA 30 min after they were released!

TG

Hi Adam,

So do you think these cheap USB reader/writers have the same capabilities (or at least enough to do what we want) as the more expensive Infinity Unlimited?

Also, My Iphone should be here tomorrow/monday-- do you guys know if the 'unopened package' will include the at&t sim that i need to extract the info off?

Thanks again, Richard

dotmike

08-09-2007, 12:34 PM

Has anyone gotten any legal advice about using the sim cloning method in Australia? I see lots of people are doing it, and also warnings about it being illegal in some countries with punishments including jail, etc.

Are you guys that are playing with this stuff worried at all about being caught?

I really want an iPhone but I'd prefer it to be usable as a phone and I'm still on the fence as to whether to wait or not. :-\.

Hey, someone just spent $25 for 7 mins... Telstra shareholders should be happy people are doing this!

(The cost was probably taken up by GPRS data rates: 22c session fee + 2.2c per KB. It mounts up VERY quickly. 3G casual rates aren't much better at 1.5c per KB. Anyone doing this will need a data plan or those shareholders are going to be even happier.)

Seriously though, this SIM splicing method most definitely violates Telstra's terms of service. There is a Telstra employee over on the MacTalk forums who made inquiries with his superiors. Before he went he was enthusiastic about the method but after he came back he was, like, you really shouldn't be doing this. Telstra's terms of service require you to use their issued SIM card on their network. No ifs or buts about it.

In terms of legality, it's somewhere between stealing your neighbour's WiFi (mild) and hacking into Telstra's bank account (bad).

If you do it and damage the network, you could be facing charges of criminal liability at worst, or civil monetary damages at best.

If, however, you aren't causing harm and Telstra decides to turn a blind eye (especially if you are making them money) then you may get away with it. Ozbimmer seems to be still free.

The problem is that this hack is no longer a secret - once it gets onto places like Engadget, everyone knows about it, and you can bet most Telstra techs do too.

Look, if you're at all cautious, which you sound like you are, and/or have family responsibilities, I would wait for the iPhone Dev Wiki to release a true unlocking solution. You've waited 6 months since MacWorld for the iPhone, you can wait another month to get an unlock.

BTW, with those pre-paid cards, you still have to have identification to activate them, don't you? You aren't really anonymous.

Schismd

08-09-2007, 01:01 PM

I saw the lil GSM reader there too ! It was $35

Is there any reason why that would not work to get the KI of a V1 sim and also write to the silvercard ? it says it can do pincodes and global fone numbers as well as phone book and sms... ?? anyone have any ideas

Cheers
Schismd

wombat

08-09-2007, 05:15 PM

Ok all, I couldn't wait for the lil USB writer to arrive, and I have a mate who just happened to have a Phoenix reader, so... anyway... I tried it out. It works fine, except for one thing. My Telstra 3G card (not Next G, just before) is not V1 as the young fellow said at the Telstra shop. Good news is that it didn't do any damage to it to check it out.

I'm going into the Telstra shop tomorrow morning to get a new sim card - I mean - an old sim card. They're going to make me a new standard GSM sim card to use in place of my 3G card. It's amazing the privs you get sometimes for being a business plan subscriber.

Ok, so far:

-- Telstra Next G SIM - Not Working
-- Telstra 3G 2006 SIM - Not Working
-- Telstra 2.5G GSM SIM - We'll just see tomorrow :)

Cheers.
-Adam

ozbimmer

08-09-2007, 05:17 PM

wombat, you will have a treat tomorrow when u get the 2.5G sim card :)

wombat

08-09-2007, 05:52 PM

Awesome, cheers mate ;)

wombat

08-09-2007, 06:52 PM

Adding another one to the list. Just copy and paste this list and paste your own at the bottom if it's not there already - that way we can keep an up to date list of which networks/cards are working:

-- Telstra Next G SIM - Not Working
-- Telstra 3G 2006 SIM - Not Working
-- Telstra 2.5G GSM SIM - Working (ozbimmer's)
-- Optus 'yes optus' SIM - Working
-- REWARD Mobile (Vodafone Reseller) SIM - Not Working, checks Ki till limit, no clashes.
-- Vodafone Red SIM - Not Working, checks Ki till limit, no clashes.

Secured

08-09-2007, 07:49 PM

Anyone in Perth want to collaborate efforts? Got a SIM programmer or extra silver cards? I have a SIM from Dubai I want to try the supersim solution with! I also have a pre-paid Telstra one that I would love to try. Let me know with PM or a reply :)

wombat

08-10-2007, 06:52 AM

Ok, I just got my new (I mean old) Telstra 2.5G GSM SIM from the local Telstra shop. They had one left. It cost me a grand total of $33 to downgrade from my old 3G card.

The new sim I received from the Telstra shop cracked perfectly. Ki has been obtained. Now just have to wait for the Silver Card to arrive in the mail.

-Adam

wombat

08-10-2007, 08:33 AM

I brought a cheap Chinese reader/writer from eBay, and it seems to work fine. Firstly, I had port virtualisation software included free with it (yes, I'll post a link soon), and after installing that, I gave it a test try.

Using WoronScan, it worked perfectly using COM 3, and selecting 6.(something)mhz. Although, it corrected it to read at 14400 instead of 16k something.

Using SIM EMU, it at first didn't do anything (no device error). I went to the options menu and selected COM 3 port (which is the virtualised port), and it then gave me the 'this isn't a sim emu card' error, the same as my borrowed Jaycar smart card writer.

The Jaycar programmer I borrowed though is awesome. It's Phoenix compatible, and this particular one used to be used to rewrite pay tv cards. Yarr.

The Sim Max brand blank sim card I received with the Chinese reader/writer appears to be rubbish, but the reader/writer itself shows promise. By memory, it cost me about $15 - not a big investment even if all you do is throw it away later, or sell it for $1 at a pawn store.

I've ordered a Silver Sim card, and when it arrives, I'll be programming it using the Jaycar Phoenix-compatible programmer - but only because I know it will work perfectly. After I record a success, I'll be erasing the silvercard and trying out the el cheapo Chinese reader/writer and letting you all know. So far though, it looks like it might work.

Cheers
-Adam

dotmike

08-10-2007, 09:30 AM

Ok, I just got my new (I mean old) Telstra 2.5G GSM SIM from the local Telstra shop. They had one left. It cost me a grand total of $33 to downgrade from my old 3G card.

Sounds cool, Wombat! Looks like you're ready to go.

So Telstra moved your existing number / account / plan to a new v1 SIM card? That was very considerate of them!

Did they make any fuss? (After all, there can't be that many people needing to do that.)

Good work getting it done!

wombat

08-10-2007, 09:48 AM

Hi man,

Nah, they were really nice about it all. Though, of course, they did try and flog the Next G sim to me. They tried it for about 2 seconds though, before quickly giving up. I'm on a business plan, so they're pretty cool about doing whatever you want so long as you have the money. They had one single old GSM sim left.

Just waiting 'patiently' for my silver cards to arrive now...

TheGuide

08-10-2007, 11:28 AM

Hey guys I found the jaycar kit for less than jaycar are selling it.
http://www.satcom.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=22_111&products_id=80 though I would share the info.

TG

wombat

08-10-2007, 11:44 AM

Ok, update with the cheap Chinese SIM MAX reader/writer.

Using a program called Sim Easy (http://w13.easy-share.com/2588371.html), I was able to use my crappy Chinese reader/writer via USB (after installing the SIM MAX utilities which came with it), and I was then able to connect to the card, then select 'Magic Sim'.

Using the blue SIM MAX card which came with it, I am able to enter up to 12 accounts with SMSC (sms carrier gateway - use local number, no country code), IMSI, KI and ICCID.

I entered my Telstra details and disconnected the card and bam - working cloned card.

This was of course in my normal old LG phone, having entered only my Telstra IMSI, ICCID, and KI.

I tried entering in my Telstra details on line 1, then my AT&T IMSI on line 2, but it just favoured the AT&T details and refused to connect to the network.

I successfully made a card which contains my Telstra ICCID, and KI with the AT&T IMSI on it, but I haven't iASign'd my iPhone for it, and I wanted to check with a couple of people the kind of risk associated with replacing my IMSI like that.

So, it turns out that dodgy cheap Chinese reader with freebie card isn't so useless after all ;)

-Adam

captaincool01

08-10-2007, 02:35 PM

Hey guys,

Tried setting up my old Infinity USB programmer... looks like it wont work. Tried virtual com ports, and what not with any luck. I also found 2 old v1 optus sims which if they're useful to anyone around here I'm happy to send them your way.

Any ideas or anyone around the NW of NSW who wants to help out?

Thanks gang, Richard

TheGuide

08-10-2007, 03:04 PM

Dito! anyone near the Gold coast feel like helping me do mine? I have a jaycar kit on the way and a silvercard, but not sure I can get it to work my self.

TG.

Hey guys,

Tried setting up my old Infinity USB programmer... looks like it wont work. Tried virtual com ports, and what not with any luck. I also found 2 old v1 optus sims which if they're useful to anyone around here I'm happy to send them your way.

Any ideas or anyone around the NW of NSW who wants to help out?

Thanks gang, Richard

ozbimmer

08-10-2007, 04:15 PM

we should build a "mate" list for all aussie users here :)

da76

08-11-2007, 02:43 AM

Ditto Brisbane (and willing to pay!).

captaincool01

08-11-2007, 05:09 AM

OK gang so who has got their phone working successfully?

Richard

ozzielad

08-11-2007, 05:45 AM

I'm in Brisbane - on Vodafone (3g) and I'd pay for a way to use mine. :)

O

captaincool01

08-11-2007, 06:58 AM

adam,

or anyone, do you know where i can purchase an infinity usb unlimited programmer? Kangamail doesn't seem to have them.
Cheers, Richard

Focher

08-11-2007, 10:10 AM

I purchased my Infinity USB and Silvercard from www.satcom.com.au.

They shipped it pretty much the next day.

Focher

08-11-2007, 10:11 AM

I have an Infinity USB programmer and seem to have all the components I need. My problem is that Woron Scan seems to require the programmer to be on a serial port and not USB.

Is there software out there that allows me to treat the USB device as a virtual serial port?

If so, can someone recommend where I can get it?

ozbimmer

08-11-2007, 10:34 AM

focher: the software that comes with Infinity USB Unlimited programmer let you have a virtual com port. have a look

captaincool01

08-11-2007, 10:39 AM

ozbimmer,

I have the infinity USB... although it's not the 'unlimited'. will the virtual com software still work with it using worscan?

Thanks, Richard

ozbimmer

08-11-2007, 10:55 AM

i don't think any infinity programmer other than infinity usb unlimited has the VCP function. Please check the manufacturer website...

TheGuide

08-11-2007, 11:04 AM

Ok well I have a jaycar kit on its way with a silvercard. providing I can get it all to work happy for me I am in Byron bay area maybe we could do a meet up someplace in the gold coast for all you guys who are stuck. ;) I'l see how I go!

TG :rolleyes:

captaincool01

08-11-2007, 11:12 AM

The guide,

I have my silver card arriving on tuesday and I'll be playng around then. I have to travel to Brisbane the following week-- If I'm still not having and luck I'd love to take you up on the offer.

Richard

Niftyiphone

08-11-2007, 02:39 PM

If anyone is free or wants to give me a hand with this in Melbourne please PM me. :)

Happy to compensate those who are able to help me.

Secured

08-11-2007, 02:46 PM

Good day All Ausies,

I have found the following programmer on Cellular-Cables.com's website. it is called TiProg. They claim it can program the following cards:

PIC controller based:
Gold Card (PIC16F84(A) + 24C16)
Blue Card (PIC16F84(A) + 24C64)
Pic Card 2 (PIC16F628 + 24C64)
Silver Card (PIC16F877 + 24C64)
Green Card (PIC16F877 + 24C128)
Green Card 2 (PIC16F877 + 24C256)

AVR controller based:
ATMega Card (AT90Mega163 + 24C256)
Jupiter Card (AT90S2323[43] + 24C16)
Jupiter Card 2 (AT90S8535 + 24C64)
Fun Card 2 (AT90S8515 + 24C64)
Fun Card 3 (AT90S8515 + 24C128)
Fun Card 4 (AT90S8515 + 24C256)
Fun Card 5 (AT90S8515 + 24C512)
Fun Card 6 (AT90S8515 + 24C1024)

The price for a KIT (which includes a silver card) is 77$ (USD)

Do you think this would work? It looks like it is usb based and I am not sure if it comes with a virtual com port :(

I am in Perth and if anyone wants to collaborate on this, let me know :) Anyone?

OZiPhone

08-11-2007, 04:35 PM

Count me in. I just got my iPhone and did the jailbreak etc. I am on Vodafone and want to get my iPhone working. I dont care if i have to move to Telstra. I will pay good $$ to get a sim and number working on my iPhone.

Any Sydney siders?

Email me: sashais@mac.com

wombat

08-11-2007, 09:53 PM

Yeah you'll probably have to move to Telstra (crap crap crap crap) - I haven't been able to crack any of the Vodafone cards I've gotten my hands on - has anyone else?

Focher

08-12-2007, 02:01 AM

I was able to successfully use the SuperSim procedure on a Telstra pre-paid card I bought just last week.

Was quite nice to see the iPhone come up with a Telstra signal...

captaincool01

08-12-2007, 03:14 AM

Hey Focher,

Where abouts are you located mate?

Richard

Schismd

08-12-2007, 09:01 AM

It's all about the turbo-sim.

will apparently work with v1, v2 and v3 cards.

Looks good for my vodafone sim :)

captaincool01

08-12-2007, 10:09 AM

Hi All,

I was going to write this on the main board-- but I don't think others are as understanding and relaxed as us Australians.

Basically, My iphone should arrive tomorrow. I've followed most of the threads regarding activation, jailbreak, supersims, etc

My problem is, come tomorrow afternoon when I get the phone after work I'm going to have more information in my mind than is needed for a concise list of steps to take. As far as I can understand I simply need to:

1) activate the Iphone (which I will do with the PQdvd unlock tool).

2) follow the instructions in the thread: Tutorial: "unlock" your iphone with superSim.

3) Show off phone

I understand that I may have missed something obvious, that's why I am asking before I try tomorrow. Also, this is why I am posting here, because people on online forums tend to be short tempered toward people who ask ('simple') questions!

I would really appreciate any help and guidance anyone can give me.

Thanks again, Richard

P.S My silvercard/programmer are on the way.

mkt777

08-12-2007, 10:57 AM

Schismd -- are you saying you've got it working with your Vodafone Sim? Or you're hoping to?

Telstra rates are through the rooff -- I hope we can get it working on Vodafone

Focher

08-12-2007, 11:16 AM

Hi Richard,

I am happy to help out through the forums, but am a bit reluctant to do this for someone else based on the gray legality of it.

It's really not hard to follow the instructions and very logical once you go through it. The Silvercard can even be reprogrammed if you make a mistake so there is really minimal risk.

Just make sure your phone is not activated at all. Otherwise, you need to restore it. Also, go ahead and update to the latest firmware. It works fine with it.

Focher

08-12-2007, 11:18 AM

Just did it with my Optus SIM too.

I wasn't able to get data working with the Telstra SIM, but probably because it was a prepaid card and might not have had data enabled on it.

captaincool01

08-12-2007, 11:21 AM

Focher,

Thanks for the reply. So I shouldn't use the activation (pqdvd method) at all? Also, does the infinity USB software work in Vista because it's not detecting the programmer ('programmer disconnected').

Thanks again, Richard

MacMoritz

08-12-2007, 11:53 AM

Hi,

is anybody in Sydney and around who could help me out with all of this?
I am with Vodafone, but I don't care to change to Telstra or Optus.
I just need to know which SIM-card I have to purchase and tomoorrwo I would look for the solvercrad in the city.

SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THE PROCESS AND the iPhone is running?

Plase @forcher, don't think about the edge of legality.
We are not so many here who are lucky enough to have the iPhone.
So we should stick together.

Of course I would pay for the help and who knows, perhaps an other time I could help in an other way the one who helps me.

Please I just want to see my iPhone running and not sleeping in the box since I've got it :-(

Cheers

MacMoritz

Focher

08-12-2007, 12:20 PM

I just meant you should not activate it before you insert the newly programmed SIM card. Activate it with the "new" SIM installed.

I have the Infinity USB Phoenix programmer, and that is supported in Vista. If you have that programmer, make sure you download the latest proper software from their site (www.infinityusb.com). It's not the first set of packages. It's down the list a bit.

What did happen to me is that using worscan in Vista caused a lockup when trying to get the KI value. So I used XP instead and had no problems.

Focher

08-12-2007, 12:28 PM

You need a Silvercard to use as the "new" SIM you will program.

As for your current SIM, the key thing is whether you can use worscan to get the KI value from it. If you can, then there is no issue. So far I have successfully gotten the KI value from a prepaid Telstra card and my existing Optus one.

I suggest you just try it out. You probably will find it is really easy to follow the instructions in the "Tutorial for SuperSim" thread.

MacMoritz

08-12-2007, 12:46 PM

..mate I haven't got a card reader nor have I got those programs.
I'm using a PowerBoo 12" G4, so I'm sure all of this wouldn't work.
Pleas write PM if you like to help.
I know I should do this all alone, but I'm desperate with such things and not don't know so much about computers, pragraming etc.....
When I switched on my iPhoen I was able to see the IMEI and the ICCID Numbers, are they from any help?

Please someone help me. If I would be able to do thi alone I would do it but I'm not :-(((

captaincool01

08-12-2007, 01:13 PM

Focher,

I have the infinity USB. Unfortunately, unlike the phoenix and unlimited it doesn't support serial or virtual serial. I think I might have to buy a new programmer I guess. Any suggestions mate?

Thanks, Richard

TheGuide

08-12-2007, 02:07 PM

I have ordered the Jaycar one witch I will build once it arrives. Fingers crossed I can get it working with my macbook via parallels or Boot camp if I must.

This one here http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KC5361

TG

wombat

08-12-2007, 02:49 PM

Hey TG,

I'm pretty sure it's RS-232 serial mate (at least the old one I have is, which is about 3 years old). In that case, you'd need a serial to usb converter (physical device).

-Adam

Focher

08-12-2007, 02:57 PM

Can someone who has successfully programmed their iPhone tell me if they see an option for International Assisted Dialing under the Settings - Phone screen.

The manual talks about it and I remember seeing something like that before I put in the cloned SIM, but it isn't there now. I want to find out of it's a bug introduced in the 1.1 firmware or if the cloned SIM causes it.

TheGuide

08-12-2007, 03:14 PM

Yeah already ahead of you there. I have a RS-232 to USB prolific adaptor that works just great to flash my GPS firmware with the PC side. So should be fine. let you know when I get there.

TG

Hey TG,

I'm pretty sure it's RS-232 serial mate (at least the old one I have is, which is about 3 years old). In that case, you'd need a serial to usb converter (physical device).

-Adam

MacMoritz

08-12-2007, 04:44 PM

Comm on mates,

I don't belive this, that nobody of you is willing to help me, to make my iPhone working.
Never had such a bad experience before with other mac user's :-(

wombat

08-12-2007, 05:31 PM

MacMoritz, install virtual pc and use it like that. Should work. Other than that, just use an old pc for it once off. Sorry, but I can't help much more than that, I live on the south coast.
-Adam

Niftyiphone

08-12-2007, 05:55 PM

Comm on mates,

I don't belive this, that nobody of you is willing to help me, to make my iPhone working.
Never had such a bad experience before with other mac user's :-(

I am just trying to hunt down a infinity USB then once I get mine done( if I can do it) I will try and do a spare. Am in melbourne and have limited computer experience but ozbimmer has written comprehensive instructions that I reckon I can follow :-)

MacMoritz

08-12-2007, 06:17 PM

MacMoritz, install virtual pc and use it like that. Should work. Other than that, just use an old pc for it once off. Sorry, but I can't help much more than that, I live on the south coast.
-Adam

Mates I can't install anything on my g4 PowerBook to run windows. Windows is operating only on intel macs. And I also don't have an old PC. At Uni I'm also not allowed to install anything on a PC. And because I just immigrated from germany some months ago I also don't know anybody who could do this for me.

I don't really think this is a big deal to help me out, if anybody managed it to bring his iPhon to work with a new created sim.
Don't want to complain, but in germany we "Apple-product-user" helped each other. Doesn't matter if it was with the Mac, the iPod or other Apple products.

I thought aussis were very nice and helpful but it doesn't seem like that :-(
And belive me, if I'd see any other chance to do this I would have done it already!

The only thing I can do is to buy a Telstra or Optus sim, also a silver card and to send it to someone.... although I'm a student I would pay for it a fair amount of AU$

Soooo pleeease help me anybody!

wombat

08-12-2007, 06:39 PM

You can install Virtual PC. Virtual PC is emulation software which will run on older PowerPC macs and which will emulate the x86 architecture. Then you can install Windows on a virtual machine in Virtual PC and run the tools you need.

MacMoritz

08-12-2007, 06:49 PM

I may be can do that.... but I don't know how and have never done this.
I'm a non IT student and don't know so much about computer and all that stuff....

As I said, if I knew how to do that I would have done it before.
Because normaly I'm not asking for help, but if I'm unable to do something I have to ask.
And I would be glad to help in an other way if I can.

iphonehome

08-13-2007, 01:26 AM

Mates I can't install anything on my g4 PowerBook to run windows. Windows is operating only on intel macs. And I also don't have an old PC. At Uni I'm also not allowed to install anything on a PC. And because I just immigrated from germany some months ago I also don't know anybody who could do this for me.

I don't really think this is a big deal to help me out, if anybody managed it to bring his iPhon to work with a new created sim.
Don't want to complain, but in germany we "Apple-product-user" helped each other. Doesn't matter if it was with the Mac, the iPod or other Apple products.

I thought aussis were very nice and helpful but it doesn't seem like that :-(
And belive me, if I'd see any other chance to do this I would have done it already!

The only thing I can do is to buy a Telstra or Optus sim, also a silver card and to send it to someone.... although I'm a student I would pay for it a fair amount of AU$

Soooo pleeease help me anybody!

MacMoritz,

Read through the forums, gather as much information as you can and follow the step by step guides. What more could you be asking for?? Someone to personally come around to your house and clone your sim for you?

I'm no IT expert either, far from it, but I've just done a bit of reasearch on this forum, purchased the equiptment everyone else has been using and had a go following the great step by step tutorials that are provided here. It's not rocket science.

Your accusations that no one is being nice to you suggests that you don't really understand the process involved in cloning a sim. No one can just drop off a newly cloned sim to you as you have a unique number on your active sim that needs to be copied onto a silvercard (programmable sim card). This can sometimes take hours.

On top of that, this whole process is illegal in most countries, Australia included so I can totally undersatnd why no one is giving out there phone numbers in the hope you contact them so you can have your sim card f**ked with.

It gets me pretty worked up that you'd come on here accusing us Aussies of not being helpful and noice. Have a go ya mug - that's the Aussie way.

Niftyiphone

08-13-2007, 03:12 AM

Macmoritz

Read throught hte very detailed tutorial posted by ozbimmer. If you think your capable of doing that then give it a go.

From what i have read and how detailed Oz has made it this could be well worth trying. I have limited computer knowledge as well. But i feel i can follow this guide.

At this point its a judgement call. Do you want to use your iphone as an excellent wifi internet device and ipod and wait for someone to do all the work to unlock (which may happen tomorrow or next week or next month). Or do you want to put it all on the line and take a leap and try the current only "phone workaround" we have?

A notice though for early adopters like yourself, there are some rules to follow.

1. Expect it not to be easy
2. Expect to do your Dough :)
3. Expect to make mistakes
4. Dont expect others to do all the work for you (In my experiece you will get a lot of help though)

Schismd

08-13-2007, 04:22 AM

captaincool01

08-13-2007, 04:49 AM

Looks like I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a new programmer. Anyone know where I can order an Infinity USB unlimited programmer online in australia?

Thanks, Richard

Niftyiphone

08-13-2007, 04:51 AM

You can get it from here Richard.

http://www.satcom.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=41

if your in Melbourne i am happy to share the cost with you. We can give it a go together.

captaincool01

08-13-2007, 05:16 AM

HAHA don't buy that mate-- I already own one of those. The problem with it is that it doesn't support virtual com port-- so the software won't work on it.

We need the infinity usb UNLIMITED. Or, the jaycar programmer.

Anyone have any other suggestions? I'm thinking of getting the jaycar programmer and getting a friend to put it together. Any pros/cons re: this option?

Thanks, Richard

Niftyiphone

08-13-2007, 05:38 AM

Ah thanx for the tip buddy. that would have been an expensive mistake!

I will keep searching for an Infinity usb unlimited. Let you know how i go

captaincool01

08-13-2007, 05:48 AM

NiftyIphone,

Apparently http://www.quantronics.com.au/ sells them but I can't see it listed on the website. According to the infinity website they're the official aus dealer.

Goodluck

Richard

MacMoritz

08-13-2007, 06:10 AM

MacMoritz - Stop your crying.

"Guilt-tripping" the thread in the hope that someone that cares see's it and books you in for a personal sim cloning tutorial is just not going to work, and probably not going to happen.

On top of that you accuse "us" aussies as bad people because no one seems to wanna put their hand up to help - like they apparently have with the "super" hard accessories such as a laptop or an ipod... give us a break.

Read up on the forums, and if that doesn't cut it wait around for the elusive full unlock.
In the meantime here's a box of kleenex. Dry your eyes princess.

mate I'm not accusing aussies and did't say aussies are bad people! If they were I wouldn't be here. I just was wondering why nobody wants to help. Because I would do so, as I did with other things.
Nor am I a princess.
I also didn't expect it will be easy. I only was searching for help.

And what is wrong with the idea to get some help and to share the costs?
We are all in the same boat.
But thank you for your comment and good day mate.

OZiPhone

08-13-2007, 06:48 AM

Well it seems Mac users have no luck with being able to do this.

I dont care if this all illegal or not to do what is being done to get the Sim's working. I just want to be able to get my iPhone to work as a phone and PDA together so i can ditch my normal mobile.

It seems Telstra is the option for working. If anyone wants to earn a quick buck and do me a working SIM on Pre Paid i will pay good money. All you need to do is email me.

sashais@mac.com

MacMoritz

08-13-2007, 07:24 AM

MacMoritz,

Read through the forums, gather as much information as you can and follow the step by step guides. What more could you be asking for?? Someone to personally come around to your house and clone your sim for you?

I'm no IT expert either, far from it, but I've just done a bit of reasearch on this forum, purchased the equiptment everyone else has been using and had a go following the great step by step tutorials that are provided here. It's not rocket science.

Your accusations that no one is being nice to you suggests that you don't really understand the process involved in cloning a sim. No one can just drop off a newly cloned sim to you as you have a unique number on your active sim that needs to be copied onto a silvercard (programmable sim card). This can sometimes take hours.

On top of that, this whole process is illegal in most countries, Australia included so I can totally undersatnd why no one is giving out there phone numbers in the hope you contact them so you can have your sim card f**ked with.

It gets me pretty worked up that you'd come on here accusing us Aussies of not being helpful and noice. Have a go ya mug - that's the Aussie way.

WOW

you are calling me a mug?
Thanks mate, but I can't reach your low level and I don't want to!
I also don't think your opinion is the opinion of the majority here.
Just because I asked for help isn't a reason to insult me!
And I also didn't ask you personally for help.

Anyway, I apologize if anyone of you guys felt insulted.
My comment wasn't meant to do so. And I never meant to accuse Aussies, I just was wondering.

Thanks to those who understand, that without having the right computer knowledge and a PC I'm not able to do, what others maybe have already done successfully.

Thanks and cheers mates!

Schismd

08-13-2007, 08:48 AM

WOW

you are calling me a mug?
Thanks mate, but I can't reach your low level and I don't want to!
I also don't think your opinion is the opinion of the majority here.
Just because I asked for help isn't a reason to insult me!
And I also didn't ask you personally for help.

Anyway, I apologize if anyone of you guys felt insulted.
My comment wasn't meant to do so. And I never meant to accuse Aussies, I just was wondering.

Thanks to those who understand, that without having the right computer knowledge and a PC I'm not able to do, what others maybe have already done successfully.

Thanks and cheers mates!

Sledging via translation is damn humorous

wombat

08-13-2007, 09:07 AM

Well it seems Mac users have no luck with being able to do this.

mac users will have no problems doing this on their macs. it's only the old powerpc macs (pre intel) that will have difficulty. you can install windows on an intel mac and have a dual boot setup using bootcamp, or install windows onto parallels. with old powerpc macs, you can just download virtual pc and install windows that way. the only problem with it there is that you have to find a copy of virtual pc, which isn't free, so that's the only problem - means you may just have to pirate it yarr - though i don't encourage that... :)

all of course provided you are capable of installing the windows operating system, which is a little difficult if you've only ever installed mac os x (which is damn easy).

MacMoritz

08-13-2007, 09:28 AM

mac users will have no problems doing this on their macs. it's only the old powerpc macs (pre intel) that will have difficulty. you can install windows on an intel mac and have a dual boot setup using bootcamp, or install windows onto parallels. with old powerpc macs, you can just download virtual pc and install windows that way. the only problem with it there is that you have to find a copy of virtual pc, which isn't free, so that's the only problem - means you may just have to pirate it yarr - though i don't encourage that... :)

all of course provided you are capable of installing the windows operating system, which is a little difficult if you've only ever installed mac os x (which is damn easy).

Thats the problem I've gut.
PowerPC Mac, no virtual pc, no vindows version and the last version of windows I've used was windows '98. And I never missed windows since I swaped to OS X ;-) .

Niftyiphone

08-13-2007, 10:22 AM

TheGuide

08-13-2007, 10:44 AM

Yep I am using boot camp my self as parallels witch I run also wont do the com port correct with my usb to RS232 adaptor. just waiting on my Jaycar kit to arrive with my silversim as well! Then I will be right on it!

TG

mac users will have no problems doing this on their macs. it's only the old powerpc macs (pre intel) that will have difficulty. you can install windows on an intel mac and have a dual boot setup using bootcamp, or install windows onto parallels. with old powerpc macs, you can just download virtual pc and install windows that way. the only problem with it there is that you have to find a copy of virtual pc, which isn't free, so that's the only problem - means you may just have to pirate it yarr - though i don't encourage that... :)

all of course provided you are capable of installing the windows operating system, which is a little difficult if you've only ever installed mac os x (which is damn easy).

MacMoritz

08-13-2007, 10:44 AM

surely you have a friend with a PC... your friends cant all be that cool! ;)

you may also want to keep an eye on the developing Turbo Sim method over the next few days. That could be something you could also do yourself.

Because I'm new in australia, I don't have so many friends. Maybe you understand now why I was asking for help. And the few guys and girls I know haven't got a PC or don't know anything abour computer at all.
They know much less then I do.

Focher

08-13-2007, 11:00 AM

I have been asked for some information in private messages, but it seems like information that could be useful to a lot of people so I am putting it here.

To clone a SIM card, you need something called a Silvercard. This is a credit card sized programmable smart card that can be programmed as a SIM. I ordered mine from Satcom at www.satcom.com.au for about $15. After you program this chip on this card, you have to cut it out in the shape of a SIM card. There is a link from the tutorial thread showing exactly how to cut the card properly.

The bigger issue is that no one can tell you if they can program a clone of your SIM card until they actually try. The key step is that you need to take your existing SIM card and run it through the software called Wor Scan to try to determine the KI value. In older versions of SIM cards (version 1) this can be done. In newer ones, it cannot be done.

When you get the SIM card is also no clear determiner whether it is a v1 or v2+ card. For example, I bought a Telstra prepaid card just for testing last week and it was a v1. I personally have to idea if you can tell a v1 apart from newer cards without putting it in the programmer.

Some people claim different providers (Optus, Telstra, Vodafone, 3) always use specific versions of the SIM card. I also cannot confirm if this is true or not. It's basically just trial and error.

Also some clarifications about equipment. I used an Infinity USB Phoenix programmer that has both a serial and USB port. Different software uses different ports.

1) Infinity USB Phoenix software - used to put the programmer into "Phoenix" mode necessary to use Wor Scan and SIM-EMU. Also can be used to write the modified firmware to the Silvercard. This uses the USB port to the programmer. Also, the USB port is always required because it provides power to the programmer.

2) Wor Scan - Used to give you the IMSI, ICCID, and (hopefully) to crack the KI from your existing SIM card. This software requires the use of the serial interface only. No USB support for programmer but still necessary for power.

3) SIM-EMU - Used to modify the values in the SIM card configuration. The new configuration can then be saved to firmware files. It is also used to write the new firmware to the Silvercard. I was unsuccessful using this software to write the new firmware, but the Infinity USB Phoenix software can do it also so I used that. This software requries the use of the serial interface only. No USB support for programmer but still necessary for power.

To get my serial interface capability, I used a standard serial to USB converter because I don't have a serial port on my computer. For my computer, I used Windows XP on a Thinkpad T60. I tried to run Wor Scan on Vista but it would freeze when trying to crack the KI.

Also of interest, you can reprogram the same Silvercard multiple times. I don't know if there is a limitation of how many times, but I wrote my Optus SIM configuration to the same card that I used for the Telstra prepaid I tried. Obviously, the new configuration overwrites the old one.

Hope this all helps.

Niftyiphone

08-13-2007, 11:02 AM

Well there may be a "non branded" phone shop that will do it for you... find somewhere in the city that looks like a littel dodgy phone shop and see if you can pay them to do sim cloning... youy want someone who does on site mobile phone repairs, they will more than likely have the tools required and the know how.

Other than that buddy i suggest you watch the Turbo Sim method closely.... if that works then for $100 you can get your iphone ... well... phoning. After that your fate lies int he hands of the Dev team or someone like them to do a total unlock and an executable mac app for people like us who dont have tech resources at hand.

But really, thats the gamble we/you took when you bought an iphone outside of the US

captaincool01

08-13-2007, 12:04 PM

Thanks Focher. The more I read the more confident I feel. Hopefully it all arrives tomorrow.

Will lt you all know

Richard

MacMoritz

08-13-2007, 12:46 PM

Hi mates, can I buy this silver card tomorrow? I can get the card also for someone else here in Sydney if you need one.

https://secure4.vivid-design.com.au/jaycar2005/productView.asp?ID=ZZ8810&CATID=&keywords=silver+card&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

Skinny07

08-13-2007, 12:46 PM

Hey Fellas

Firstly why is everyone complaining about Telstra PrePaid rates? They are great.

For $40 a month you get $230 worth of calls etc, plus $40 to spend on any "packs" (e.g. such as a data pack). I think $29 is 70MB and $49 is 200MB (and remember you will get EDGE speeds with Telstra PrePaid not GPRS like on Optus/Vodafone)

Secondly, has anyone started a pool on this? I dont want to invest another $200 in a programmer to get the iPhone working..?

Anyone in Sydney (or anywhere really I dont care) want to collaborate on this, let me know.. we can share costs.

mkt777

08-13-2007, 01:58 PM

Skinny07. Where did you hear about these Rates? When I went into the Telstra shop they did not alert me as to these plans. Do you have a link?

Is that the 2.5g prepaid plans, or the NextG prepaid plans?

Look forward to your reply. if you had a link to this, that would be great.

Skinny07

08-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Dude Telstra employees are stupid

http://www.telstra.com.au/telstraprepaidplus/latestoffers/offers_friends.htm

Purchase a $40 recharge voucher and get:

$260 of extra credit for 30 days of talk, text and MMS to five numbers on ANY network in Australia.

Plus

Spend your $40 recharge credit on any pre-paid services.

Pack name - Data Packs (3G, HSDPA, GPRS)

BROWSEPLUS5 $5 1 Mb
BROWSEPLUS8 $8 3 Mb
BROWSEPLUS16 $16 10 Mb
BROWSEPLUS29 $29 70 Mb
BROWSEPLUS59 $59 200 Mb

Cracker

08-13-2007, 03:34 PM

" to five numbers on ANY network in Australia."

Just go the Vodafone $49 cap which will be like $280 worth of calls to anyone "unlimited numbers" by september. Now it's $49 for $230

wombat

08-13-2007, 05:13 PM

DO NOT GO VODAFONE. You can't crack the Ki out of any Vodafone sim.

captaincool01

08-14-2007, 04:19 AM

Hi guys-- I've got my jaycar programmer in the mail.

My question-- I think someone said that they used all of the software with it without too many issues. Can someone who has made the supersim with the jaycar programmer please confirm this for me? Any tips?

Thanks again guys, Richard

OZiPhone

08-14-2007, 06:06 AM

Ok from what i read, Mac users definitely cant do a sim clone. We don't have serial ports on macs from the G3 onwardsto do some of the programming required.

I personally don't have an intel mac and actually don't know anyone with a PC. Most of my friends i have convinced over the years to switch to apple have.

I am more than happy to help assist in any way (I live in Sydney) and contribute to costs of doing this etc.

Lets hope a method works.

Can someone please supply an updated list of SIMs / Carriers in Australia that work and don't work?

lieb39

08-14-2007, 11:37 AM

Let's make it easier - I've added a brief page to the Wiki, could someone just update it / fix it? I'm not the best at Wiki pages..

http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/IPhone_in_Australia

Cheers!

wombat

08-14-2007, 11:42 AM

Ok from what i read, Mac users definitely cant do a sim clone. We don't have serial ports on macs from the G3 onwardsto do some of the programming required.

sigh. you don't need a serial port. there are plenty of usb writers - take the infinity usb unlimited, which is the current favourite - what interface does it use? usb.

it uses usb for the writing, using the infinity usb software to write from flash and eprom files directly. it also has the added ability to emulate a serial port from within windows, which means you can even use it with the older software like icprog (which is a very cool piece of software).

so hopefully this ends that crap :) you don't need a serial port. you only need one if your reader is el cheapo, or made 5 years ago.

intel macs do it just fine, in exactly the same way that a usb only pc notebook would do it. there's no black magic :)

-adam

TheGuide

08-14-2007, 01:08 PM

Ok from what i read, Mac users definitely cant do a sim clone. We don't have serial ports on macs from the G3 onwardsto do some of the programming required.

I plan on doing it with my macbook so we will see soon if you cant do it on a mac :cool:

TG

wombat

08-14-2007, 01:13 PM

lol yeah :)

jgarland79

08-14-2007, 01:38 PM

I will ship silvercards to Australia.

Here is my ebay auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130143234910

Shipping to Australia is $40 USD via FedEx International Priority.

My silvercards are $20 USD each.

60.00 USD = 71.5356 AUD

OZiPhone

08-14-2007, 01:50 PM

I guess people selling Silvercards are making a killing at the moment.

OZiPhone

08-14-2007, 01:51 PM

So guys.

Any updates on what networks / sims are working.

We need a strike list drawn up so we can narrow down to what works and doesn't.

MacMoritz

08-14-2007, 01:53 PM

Hi mates,

you can get the silver card at jaycar.com.au or their stores
I've got one for $9,95 at the jaycar store in York St. op. of QVB.

And they r the same satcom sells.

Hope this helps some of you.

I will ship silvercards to Australia.

Here is my ebay auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130143234910

Shipping to Australia is $40 USD via FedEx International Priority.

My silvercards are $20 USD each.

60.00 USD = 71.5356 AUD

OZiPhone

08-15-2007, 01:48 AM

Was just reading this

http://iphone.simbunch.com/turbosim.php

Has anyone got it working on Vodafone here in Australia

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2007/08/14/iphone-officially-unlocked-geeks-swoon-in-rapture/

ozzielad

08-15-2007, 03:24 AM

People promoting it say it'll work on any SIM card - even 3G. Although I've also read that it won't work on 3G USIM cards like Vodafone 3G use.

My brain hurts..... :)

I currently use Voda 3G here in Brisbane ... I could change back to 2.5G I guess ... and get Voda to replace my SIM card. But I'd like to confirm I need to do that before I go lying to Voda.

O

OZiPhone

08-15-2007, 04:11 AM

Same here on Vodafone.

Can anyone confirm this works with the networks.

Also anyone in Sydney who is using the Turbo Sim method and wants to team up, contact me: sashais@mac.com

Its all becoming very easy now, just need the hardware and i am on a MAC so its a bit of an issue for me to do some of the things required.

wombat

08-15-2007, 04:54 AM

why would you being on a mac be an issue? you do exactly the same things as the pc guys can do.

OZiPhone

08-15-2007, 05:33 AM

to do with the SHH for Windows being easy and mac very hard

http://cre.ations.net/blog/post/howto-install-ssh-on-your-iphone

Right now these instructions work for Windows. A Mac OSX version must be made by someone else, but the translation is fairly easy. The sshify-windows.bat must be replaced with a file that contains equivalent Mac OSX commands.

ozzielad

08-15-2007, 06:19 AM

It seems the world supply of TurboSIM's has dried up. :)

I have a back-order. Is $149.00 AUD normal???

O

Niftyiphone

08-15-2007, 06:33 AM

ozzielad, I got an email from Votech Australia last night saying they had sold out and were putting in an order for more but had no ETA at this stage.

Hopefully it will be soon but who knows how important they are on Bladox's delivery schedule

$149 is about normal factoring in exchange rates

MacMoritz

08-15-2007, 06:53 AM

Hi mates,

now I'm totally confused.
I was reading some threads at macuser.de in german and some other pages.

There they are talking about a TurboSIM and the advantages of it compared to SuperSIM.

Can please somebody explain the difference in clear and not computer-freak language between the SuperSIM and the TurboSIM method?
What are the advantages and disadvantages?

They wrote TurboSIM should be less illegal.

lieb39

08-15-2007, 07:03 AM

Hello -

This is what I know..

TurboSim -

Any Sim Card
Need TurboSim

You cut your current sim card, and use the TurboSim as well as your current (they fit into each other) + some basic iPhone hacking = working iPhone

SuperSim -

Need a 'v1' Sim Card
Need SimCard Writer/Reader
Need SilverCard

'Crack' your Sim card (that's why you need the v1) - create a new SIM card from your current one's info + the AT&T one using reader/writer onto the Silvercard, than use in iPhone.

The TurboSim is a lot more flexible.

Cheers

Secured

08-15-2007, 07:07 AM

Wombat,

I've bough bought and assembled the Jaycar kit and I wanted to know what settings you should have it on. I mean:

- JP1 jumper
- JP2 Jumper
- LED3 switch (in or out)

Also, what settings do you have to put in Woron Scan for such things as card reader Speed/Frequency.

Sim-Emu 6.01 settings as well please. Cheers :)

Any other settings or special instructions will be greatly appreciated :)

Secured

08-15-2007, 09:50 AM

Wombat,
I found out the settings on the board (Google is your friend!):

They are :

- JP1 jumper: on Phoenix side
- JP2 Jumper: on 6mhz side
- LED3 switch (in or out): on in position (s1 mode)

Still doesn't work! Are there any drivers I need to download for the device to work?

mkt777

08-15-2007, 10:29 AM

Hi!

If I am with Telstra and have a NextG Simcard, will the TurboSim method work in the iPhone?

I don't have a 2g or 2.5g Sim Card.

Would love to get all your thoughts on this!

Cheers guys (and girls)!!!

Murali Thalluri

OZiPhone

08-15-2007, 01:27 PM

Will pay $1000 for working sim on my iphone in Australia

wombat

08-15-2007, 05:51 PM

You mean $1000 for just the sim card?

wombat

08-15-2007, 05:58 PM

Secured, first have a read of this:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/...115/jaycar.zip

Then, join us over at this thread:
http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2557

Cheers

captaincool01

08-16-2007, 03:13 AM

Wow, What an awesome ocmmunity here. Nice work fellows. I follwed the 'first 10 steps' then the instructions to activate it for the silvercard sim... now I just have to wait to get home this afternoon and hopefully my programmer (jaycay, hope I can set it up!) and silver card.

Thanks for all of the invaluable info wombat-- you're really helpful mate. If I could buy you a virtual beer I would.

Thanks again everyone, Richard

captaincool01

08-17-2007, 06:15 AM

Silvercard arrived (second hand!... thanks heaps satcom!). About to put programmer together tomorrow with a friend.

Wombat, or anyone, should we put it together as instructed or is there somehting different we should do? I thought i read something to this effect earlier.

Also, my wireless is not working! It finds my wifi signal, connects with key, shows signal-- but when i try to connect to anything it says 'can't find server'. obviously this is prob some dns issue? the ip address and subnet mask are put there auto-- but the others aren't... any ideas anyone? It's driving me nuts.

Thanks, Richard

captaincool01

08-17-2007, 07:03 AM

Also, I accidently upgraded to v1.0.1. what do i do?

I'm getting a bit worried!

Richard

wombat

08-17-2007, 07:28 AM

Richard,

Read the thread I created called Jaycar Kit. It appears you might need to do a small mod to the kit in the form of cutting a couple of tracks and jumping two connectors.

As far as Satcom goes, I would only buy from them if I couldn't possibly get it anywhere else in the country. They're not real crash hot. Get your cards from Jaycar, as you're guaranteed they're brand new, and they are actually concerned with ensuring you're happy with your product. Second hand cards... that's terrible...

Jaycar sell silvers for about $9.95 by memory, plus postage. They offer a discount for multiple purchases also.

captaincool01

08-17-2007, 08:54 AM

Wombat,

What method did you use to unlock your phone to use with the supersim?

Thanks, Richard

TheGuide

08-17-2007, 09:00 AM

Got mine from there also 2nd hand. Cheap bastards! Ah well built the kit that works. Not sure if they sent me a silvercard or they messed up since I cant get sim emu to read anything at all.

TG

Silvercard arrived (second hand!... thanks heaps satcom!). About to put programmer together tomorrow with a friend.

Wombat, or anyone, should we put it together as instructed or is there somehting different we should do? I thought i read something to this effect earlier.

Also, my wireless is not working! It finds my wifi signal, connects with key, shows signal-- but when i try to connect to anything it says 'can't find server'. obviously this is prob some dns issue? the ip address and subnet mask are put there auto-- but the others aren't... any ideas anyone? It's driving me nuts.

Thanks, Richard

captaincool01

08-17-2007, 09:10 AM

Aussies--

how did you unlock your iphones to use the supersim?

Thanks

wombat

08-17-2007, 09:19 AM

Richard,

My silvers arrived a while ago from jaycar - who sell new cards, not second handies like secondhandcom do - and I wasn't going to worry about the old Jaycar kit, just wait for my Infinity USB Unlimited to arrive instead, so I could write them from my Mac which has no ancient Serial ports on it. See, writing with the Jaycar meant pulling out the old PC, blowing the dust off, setting it up, reinstalling Windows, then dropping in on my mate and borrowing his writer, and then having 'fun' with IC Prog, and the likes...

Anyway, after you guys began to have probs with it, I pulled out that old PC and set it all up (takes longer than I remember, plus dust in the face is no fun), went and borrowed the writer, and tried to write up a silver. Well, I suck. It doesn't want to give me the correct ATR, and the EPROM's not burning right.

I'm taking the card and writer over to the guru this evening so he can help me figure out what I've been doing wrong.

So, my card's (EPROM at least, PIC is ok) isn't written, and I'm waiting patiently for my Infinity USB Unlimited to arrive via Int'l Express from the UK. It should be here no later than Tuesday.

I'll ask if that mod that was outlined on the Sat Industry forums was performed on the kit (I don't know cause I didn't assemble the sucker), and if it requires any special tuning. I can say that it used to go on the LPT1 port, but we always used to do the burning at the guru's house and his computer only had LPT1 haha (sucks when old things just work, and new things don't).

I'll let you all know how I go, but in the meantime, have a read of the Sat Industry mod they performed to the thing cause it could possibly be the answer there.

http://sat-industry.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3406

freeproductions

08-17-2007, 03:48 PM

Guys:
My SuperSim is finally working thanks to all of the fantastic hints and tips I've picked up in this Forum (Particularly the Aussie content :) )
The only thing that isn't working is SMS out :(
I know I read somewhere here about formatting Aussie numbers to be iCompatable, but can't for the life of me find the relevant threads.
In SimEmu I entered an SMS Centre number which I gleaned from my Telstra GSM phone and just replaced the +61 with a 0.
It still aint working.

Does anyone know the Telstra Prepaid SMS Centre number (In an iFriendly format)

Thanks again to all.

Free the iPhone!

Focher

08-18-2007, 05:27 AM

My SMS centre number is definitely in international format.

For Telstra, try one of these (first worked on another SuperSim I did for someone):

+62418706700
+62418706800
+62418706900

freeproductions

08-18-2007, 05:35 AM

My SMS centre number is definitely in international format.

For Telstra, try one of these (first worked on another SuperSim I did for someone):

+62418706700
+62418706800
+62418706900
Focher:
Hi there and thanks for all of that.
I have tried ALL of those numbers but always with the "+" missing, and or the "61" replaced with a "0".
Hmmm. Can't remember where I read that one!?!
Thanks again I'll try it now.

Free the iPhone.

freeproductions

08-18-2007, 06:16 AM

Focher:
Thanks again, I pasted the sms centre number again with the +61 and it now all works perfectly!
The thread that suggested omitting the + or the 61 turned out to be a bum steer.

Calls in/out - Working
SMS in/out - Working
GPRS, EDGE etc - Untested :rolleyes:

Free the iPhone

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 01:20 PM

Hi mates,

at first thanks to someone who helped me out creating a SuperSIM.
I really appreciate your help!!!

But because the activation of my iPhone was done on a Windows PC, my iTunes on a G4 PowerBook (PB) wasn't able to sync with the iPhone.

I tried to do it several times, with restart of my PB but still the same error was shown.
The iPhone was working well untill this.
But because I also want to have some music and pictures on my iPhone, I want to sync it.

Because the sync process wasn't working I had the idea to restore my iPhone, as I did it several times, with my iPod when I had to configurate for PC or MAC iTunes.

But now my phone isn't working. It has to be activated.
When I connect it with my PB iTunes pops up and wants me to register it with AT&T.

But in my iPhone there is a Telstra SuperSIM inside.

Does anybody know a program for a G4 Mac to activate my iPhone bypassing iTunes?

I couldn't find anything proper.

Thanks for your help in advance mates.

This is a really good forum.

Cheers

Moritz

wombat

08-18-2007, 01:32 PM

just take out your sim then connect it to your mac to sync it..

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 01:39 PM

just take out your sim then connect it to your mac to sync it..

This doesn't work. It is saying "The iPhone can't be used with iTunes because the SIM isn't in the iPhone. You have to put your SIM-Crad into your iPhone to activate it."

Is there no Program to bypass iTunes with a g4 Mac?

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 01:43 PM

freeproductions

08-18-2007, 02:49 PM

This doesn't work. It is saying "The iPhone can't be used with iTunes because the SIM isn't in the iPhone. You have to put your SIM-Crad into your iPhone to activate it."

Is there no Program to bypass iTunes with a g4 Mac?
As I read iActivator isn't working with g4 Macs.

:-(
MacMoritz:
I found that with my iPhone "Jailbroken" that I couldn't sync because Jailbreak occupies too much memory.
There are A LOT of posts on this!
To sync my supersim activated iPhone, I do a "Return to Jail" in iActivator (Supersim stops working and is not recognised) then do my Sync, then do another Jailbreak.
No need to unactivate, no need to Restore to factory settings.
It's a pain, buy hey, it is a hack you've done, not ideal and it works right?

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 03:09 PM

I managed to find iActivator for g4 Mac.

What do I have to do now?

Preform Jailbreak or Activate iPhone?

Is there a guid how to use iActivator?
Because when I klick the button perform jailbreak or Activate iPhone a pop up window appears which wants mo to select something but I don't know what :-( ????

MacMoritz:
I found that with my iPhone "Jailbroken" that I couldn't sync because Jailbreak occupies too much memory.
There are A LOT of posts on this!
To sync my supersim activated iPhone, I do a "Return to Jail" in iActivator (Supersim stops working and is not recognised) then do my Sync, then do another Jailbreak.
No need to unactivate, no need to Restore to factory settings.
It's a pain, buy hey, it is a hack you've done, not ideal and it works right?

freeproductions

08-18-2007, 03:23 PM

Focher

08-18-2007, 03:33 PM

MacMoritz,

Your iPhone wasn't activated on Windows and that doesn't matter anyway. Likely, the reason your iTunes didn't like it was because your phone wasn't paired with your computer so you just need to re-activate it on your computer. I would recommend you take the following steps:

1) Connect your iPhone and run iTunes. This will pair it. Nothing else needs to be done at this stage. If iTunes sees your phone as a device, that is enough.

2) Follow the very thorough instructions of the README that comes with iActivator. This tells you how to activate the iPhone using the IMEI from the phone and the ICCID from the mobile operator (in your case, NOT AT&T but your local operator).

In the event you get a -4xxxxxxxxx error code at the activation step, just disconnect the iPhone and plug it right back in while iActivator is running. Sometimes iActivator has a strange timing problem that is resolved. Just keep trying and eventually it will work.

You really need to just try this stuff. You aren't going to break anything and will actually learn valuable stuff while you are attempting the steps.

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 03:40 PM

But what should I run first jailbreak or Activate iPhone?

MacMoritz,

Your iPhone wasn't activated on Windows and that doesn't matter anyway. Likely, the reason your iTunes didn't like it was because your phone wasn't paired with your computer so you just need to re-activate it on your computer. I would recommend you take the following steps:

1) Connect your iPhone and run iTunes. This will pair it. Nothing else needs to be done at this stage. If iTunes sees your phone as a device, that is enough.

2) Follow the very thorough instructions of the README that comes with iActivator. This tells you how to activate the iPhone using the IMEI from the phone and the ICCID from the mobile operator (in your case, NOT AT&T but your local operator).

In the event you get a -4xxxxxxxxx error code at the activation step, just disconnect the iPhone and plug it right back in while iActivator is running. Sometimes iActivator has a strange timing problem that is resolved. Just keep trying and eventually it will work.

You really need to just try this stuff. You aren't going to break anything and will actually learn valuable stuff while you are attempting the steps.

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 04:09 PM

But what should I run first jailbreak or Activate iPhone?

I have done all of this. But nothing works. Am close to the point to put all into the bin.
Please write me someone a PM and I'll call back, because I'm sure there is a way, I just don't see what I'm doing wrong.

MacMoritz

08-18-2007, 05:03 PM

Hi MATES,

thank you all for the support I received and sorry for bothering you and for messing up this thread.

BUT I MADE IT!

IT IS WORKING WITH TELSTRA.

SO IF ANYBODY NEEDS HELP WITH the activation of his iPhone here, please write a PM and I'll be glad to help, call back or help in person.

And now I will go out dancing and celebrate this.....

Cheers mates

vshape

08-19-2007, 03:03 AM

freeproductions

08-19-2007, 03:51 AM

OZiPhone

08-19-2007, 04:00 AM

well hopefully everyone in Australia can work together to get more of us iPhone owners online with our sims.

vshape

08-19-2007, 04:54 AM

Hi guys,

just got Vodafone AU working with Turbo SIM.

Phone IN/OUT/SMS working!

Can not get GPRS to work. I have set the APN as follows:

Settings -> General -> Network -> EDGE -> APN: vfinternet.au

Anything else I need to do?

Cheers

Now GPRS is also working.

My mistake - it was not activated on the account. A call to Vodafone solved that.

Cheers

MacMoritz

08-19-2007, 05:15 AM

Now GPRS is also working.

My mistake - it was not activated on the account. A call to Vodafone solved that.

Cheers

Does YouTube work with the TurboSIM method?

Something else to my super SIM

yesterday I finally have activated my phone and am able to call out and in, SMS within Australia also work in and out.
SMS abroad out but not in :-(

Has anybody got an idea why sms in from abroad isn't working?

Haven't try EDGE yet but you can see an E next to the Telstra network coverage sign.

And my iPhone can't dind any bluetooth devices. Any Idea why?

Cheers

Moritz

MacMoritz

08-19-2007, 05:40 AM

well hopefully everyone in Australia can work together to get more of us iPhone owners online with our sims.

I've got a Silver Card left.... if anyone needs just let me know......

TheGuide

08-19-2007, 10:46 AM

Does YouTube work with the TurboSIM method?

And my iPhone can't dind any bluetooth devices. Any Idea why?

Cheers

Moritz

The iPhone is only good for things like head sets as far as I know. Because I asked when I got my phone in the apple store the night they came out. I was in the usa at the time. :cool:

TG

freeproductions

08-19-2007, 11:15 AM

TheGuide

08-19-2007, 11:19 AM

Hmmm, I have an "E" next to my Telstra Mobile logo too, and occasionally it comes up and says "Not registered for EDGE"
And, yeah, I can't even get a bluetooth link with either of my Macs (PPC or Intel Duo)
) :

Edge should be fine. But yeah like I said, only good for head sets on bluetooth. Not designed to sync with bluetooth. Its a slow way to do a sync any way! The E means its Edge active. least we are not getting the annoying account balance here like I had on pre pay on AT&T in the usa with iPhone. FEW!!!!

Focher

08-19-2007, 02:43 PM

Did you configure the Telstra APN under Settings - General - Network - EDGE? The AT&T / Cingular APN is there by default.

By the way, I have YouTube working now. Check out this thread (http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2698).

I highly recommend also getting SSH working and installing the Installer.app and the Launcher.app - Lots of fun things are starting to appear there.

freeproductions

08-19-2007, 03:59 PM

Check this one out:

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/19/uk-iphone-reportedly-functioning-with-vodafone/2

Bollocks? :eek:

Focher

08-20-2007, 03:24 AM

I read that before and most people find it suspicious that someone at Vodafone did what he claims they did. However, from the brief information it almost seems like it is pretty much what the SuperSIM is doing - containing the info for both your normal provider and AT&T.

freeproductions

08-20-2007, 04:28 AM

Focher:
Yep, that was my sumisation too.
Thanks for those leads in your previous post.
I have to admit to being pretty hazy on most of the terms you mentioned.
I had been SO absorbed with the mechanics of making my Supersim work that I haven't thought about other hacks!
Do you really feel the YouTube process is worthwhile?
Hacktheiphone make it sound a little more trouble than it's worth!?
Must remind myself what Ssh actually is!?! :(

OZiPhone

08-20-2007, 06:38 AM

Has anyone in Sydney got the Supersim method working? Does it work with Vodafone as well?

It seems like the Turbo Slim method is going to take a while as stocks are out.

If anyone in Sydney has a spare Superim let me know please

OZiPhone

08-20-2007, 06:52 AM

Was just reading this article

http://www.builderau.com.au/strategy/futuretech/soa/Teen-iPhone-hacker-predicts-two-weeks-Interview/0,339028285,339279711,00.htm

It was from 9/7 so a little over 6 weeks. I guess the 2 week mark mentioned wasn't achievable.

OZiPhone

08-20-2007, 10:17 AM

I rang around today some phone repair places in Sydney today and a couple had the Silvercard method hardware on order. They said call back next week and they should have this all set up

mkt777

08-20-2007, 11:17 AM

Post Edited.

wombat

08-20-2007, 12:47 PM

and then axiom was closed down forever by the Australian Communications and Media Authority, and jason went to jail.

DO NOT POST DETAILS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OFFERING THIS SERVICE

you can land them in jail and they will lose everything. edit your post.

OZiPhone

08-21-2007, 03:10 AM

might have to give them a call

OZiPhone

08-21-2007, 03:37 AM

Is anyone in Sydney offering the Silvercard Method. If so please PM me. I have a few people interested in getting their iPhones working.

OZiPhone

08-21-2007, 06:43 AM

Just got this info.

Super Sim activation method will not work with Vodafone AU. They have never released V1 cards in Australia and only have V2 & V3 Cards.

captaincool01

08-21-2007, 08:15 AM

Just a quick msg-- I cam't seem to find the opts smsc number of my old razr.

Can someone please let me know?

Thanks, Richard

TheGuide

08-21-2007, 10:37 AM

Just a quick msg-- I cam't seem to find the opts smsc number of my old razr.

Can someone please let me know?

Thanks, Richard

Try one of these.

SMSC1 +61411990001
SMSC2 +61411990000

TG :D

mars

08-21-2007, 01:58 PM

dgold105

08-21-2007, 04:03 PM

I was wondering if someone could tell me exactly how I use the 6230 to get applesaft on to my turboSIM. I have seen such instructions for the RAZR but not the 6230. Do I need to use the turbo cable utils file as wel?

Also - had anyone got the turbo sim method working with Optus.

captaincool01

08-21-2007, 04:49 PM

DONE!

CALLS IN/OUT
SMS IN/OUT

THANKS WOMBAT, TG, and secure... Very lucky to have you guys help me.

ozbimmer

08-21-2007, 04:59 PM

nice to know aussies are helping each others out :)

coldav

08-22-2007, 04:28 AM

I am in Melbourne and have an unlocked iphone and a turbo sim. If there is anyone out there that has used the turbo sim method to make there iphone work here and would be happy to meet to help me do it I'd really appreciate it. I'd be happy to pay for it.

freeproductions

08-22-2007, 09:02 AM

freeproductions

08-22-2007, 09:04 AM

DONE!

CALLS IN/OUT
SMS IN/OUT

THANKS WOMBAT, TG, and secure... Very lucky to have you guys help me.
Well done CC, knew you'd get there!

captaincool01

08-22-2007, 09:36 AM

Hey gang-- anyone know the EDGE/gprs settings for optus? (prepaid)

Thanks, Richard

ballistykx

08-22-2007, 10:18 AM

Would anybody let me rent out their smartcard reader/writer? I'm willing to pay cash to rent one out and leave a deposit to pick up when I return it.

martycap

08-22-2007, 10:34 AM

hi everyone im as egar as everyone else here I'm in Melbourne and if anyone can help me out with a turbosim card and reader willing to pay for trouble. Im one of those many who have no idea on what the jargon is all about to make it work..... What im really after is someone to just make a card for me and ill pay... full stop....

Skinny07

08-22-2007, 11:41 AM

Hell yeah someone in Sydney with the required smart card reading/writing equipment lets hook up have a little iphone exchange... ill buy the drinks you bring the equipment

slipknot

08-22-2007, 01:09 PM

Hi guys

If someone wants help to make my IPhone works...so please a pm is more than welcome.
I'll give a Xbox for free...

Slip, Sydney

lenman74

08-22-2007, 05:39 PM

Another iPhone wannabe in Sydney here

1 have:

1 iphone
3 silvercards
1 SuperSim (16 in 1 sim + little sim USB reader purchased off ebay with bundled software)
1 telstra prepaid sim

I cant seem to get any KI or other numbers out of the telstra sim. Thats as far as i have got. The supplied software does no better than woronscan.

Im using a mac with XP in paralells if thats a problem/help?

Im looking for someone who has a functioning reader and who needs a Silvercard to contact me.

Again, in sydney. Email or PM.

Ta

Niftyiphone

08-24-2007, 05:16 AM

My Turbo sim arrives "soon". I am curious to know if anyone has tried this with a 3 sim? Or am i going to have to go get a telstra pre paid?

Focher

08-24-2007, 06:32 AM

A Turbo SIM works with every SIM. Doesn't matter what version it is or who the operator is.

You are confusing the SuperSIM method which requires you to break the Ki value on an existing SIM. This is only possible on v1 SIMs.

Niftyiphone

08-24-2007, 07:12 AM

thats what i was hoping, but i had read somewhere that the 3 USIM's dont play nicely with others :)

We will know next week when my Tsim arrives from Votech

OZiPhone

08-24-2007, 08:06 AM

Anyone in Sydney keen to do Geohots Method of unlocking?

ozzielad

08-24-2007, 08:08 AM

I'd be keen in Brisbane (as long as someone else knows how to solder!).

;)

O

Niftyiphone

08-24-2007, 08:18 AM

I have a guy in melbourne who wants to give it a go on my iphone

:eek: :confused: :eek:

big450

08-24-2007, 08:19 AM

hello to everyone here, 1st time poster, long time reader.

just got my iPhone working using the supersim following the guide posted by ozbimmer. i wouldn't have been able to do it without the guide aswell as the usefull information posted by others on the forum. Thank You :)

i have a few silvercards and the infinity usb unlimited reader/writer if anyone would like a hand in getting thier iPhone working using the supersim method.

everyone at work is getting a kick out of the phone, mind you the touch interface really blew them away when i was just using it as an iPod/PDA and it beats the little rollerball on the blackberry pearl anyday :D

going to try and see if i can get you tube working now.

Niftyiphone

08-24-2007, 08:25 AM

big450 good work :) and great offer there. am sure you will be inundated.

I am getting my Tsim next week, but was looking at a supersim as a backup ;)

big450

08-24-2007, 09:14 AM

cool, so Tsim production is starting to ramp up again?

i have read theads on it and it seems to be working really well, i would be willing to give it a shot but i have spent my budget.

the geohot hardware unlock looks interesting and is great news. was following the irc last night as he was posting the method. sadly i am not great with a soldering iron and risk creating an iBrick :eek:

Niftyiphone

08-24-2007, 09:27 AM

thats why i am not keen on letting this guy have a go at my iphone, and if there is a decent software update you want you have to redo it all again.

check your PM big450

mbd

08-24-2007, 09:40 AM

thats why i am not keen on letting this guy have a go at my iphone, and if there is a decent software update you want you have to redo it all again.

Go on, let him practise on your iphone, and if he's successful, let me know. I'm in Melbourne too and am yet to decide which unlock solution to pursue. (hopefully my indecisiveness will last long enough that a software unlock gets released) :-).

TheGuide

08-24-2007, 12:05 PM

ok got my iphone working with my supersim.

But..... Does anyone know the EDGE settings for Optus post paid ?

TG

MacMoritz

08-24-2007, 12:14 PM

ok got my iphone working with my supersim.

But..... Does anyone know the EDGE settings for Optus post paid ?

TG

Congratulations ;-) I also have a SuperSIM

Do you see an E next to the Optus sign?

As I know Telstra is the only one which has EDGE, and I'm with Telstra ;-)
But the the nice but not so intelligent women at the service line don't know anything about EDGE ;-( and I don't know how to explain to them what it is

captaincool01

08-24-2007, 12:19 PM

TG,

Just type 'internet' in APN and leave the asername and passowrd blank.

Make sure data is enabled for your plan.

Good work mate

Ballyhoos

08-24-2007, 02:40 PM

Finally got mine working with TurboSim Optus today. Friggin awesome to see the big "YES Optus"! :)

TheGuide

08-24-2007, 05:50 PM

TG,

Just type 'internet' in APN and leave the asername and passowrd blank.

Make sure data is enabled for your plan.

Good work mate

Sweet that fixed it up all good now.

Wooooo Hooooo all Working!

Call in/out, sms and Data E.

TG

gener8or

08-26-2007, 04:03 AM

TheGuide

08-26-2007, 04:35 AM

Guys, is anyone else having problems with Telstra Voicemail notifications with the Supersim method? I used to get an SMS when I had a voicemail, now that I'm on the iPhone I dont get them. I can send and receive SMSs fine however.

Jase

Just checked mine and I get the same thing. Odd. I also dont get the missed call sms either.

Any ideas anyone?

TG

MacMoritz

08-26-2007, 06:35 AM

Just checked mine and I get the same thing. Odd. I also dont get the missed call sms either.

Any ideas anyone?

TG

I also don't get the missed call sms. Thats why I called Telstra 125 8880 and switched off my mailbox.

Does anybody know what I have to do to activate EDGE?
Wasn't able to find anything proper in the internet and when I was talking to the girls from Telstr service line the didn't know what EDGE is.

Any idea what I might activate with Telstra and do with the setting of the iPhone for that?

Cheers

Moritz

robie_mc

08-26-2007, 07:35 AM

Hi guys,

robie_mc here for 1st ever post. Firstly, thanks to all those who've posted info here from australia, really couldn't have known what i know without your help. So thank you

Just a question to any Aussies who have unlocked their iPhones for use on Aussie networks: Has anyone been able to use their iPhone on Hutchison 3 Mobile network? I know that the iPhone is obviously not 3G, and I don't live in a 3G area anyway, but I know that some people have been able to get some Nokia 2G phones working (calls in/out, sms in/out) on 3's network in the past.

Any help/opinions/advice extremely welcome!

Thanks again

robie_mc

TheGuide

08-26-2007, 07:48 AM

ust a question to any Aussies who have unlocked their iPhones for use on Aussie networks: Has anyone been able to use their iPhone on Hutchison 3 Mobile network? I know that the iPhone is obviously not 3G, and I don't live in a 3G area anyway, but I know that some people have been able to get some Nokia 2G phones working (calls in/out, sms in/out) on 3's network in the past.
robie_mc

Do what a friend of mine did: By the way- we didn't have any v1 SIMs here at work, so I took my SIM into a Telstra shop and told them that we were trying to get a really old Nokia Communicator working, and I'd been on the phone with Nokia who said that the 3G SIM was the issue and that I needed a comp128v1 SIM. The guy behind the counter bought it and I had a new (old) SIM in two minutes!

Hope that helps ya out mate. Try see if they will downgrade your sim to a v1.0

TG