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Sassha
08-05-2007, 05:47 PM
Warning! Proceed at your own risk! Your provider can block your subscription!

If your carrier SIM card is not V1 this method will NOT work, because U CAN'T get Ki number from chip! Bassicly V1 SIM cards are at least 7 years "old" SIMs. U CAN'T know for sure if your SIM is V1 ,V2 or V3 before u try to extract Ki with WORONSCAN software(download below). If Woronscan can't extract Ki number, your SIM IS NOT V1, and U CAN NOT proceed!


SuperSim DON'T work on iPhones with 04.13.03_G and 04.04.05_G basebands



Thanks to Vladimir_CDI,ozbimmer


For start U will need:

1. an iPhone with AT&T(or O2) card which came with it!
2. Serial SIM Reader/Writer (Infinity USB Unlimited, Dynamite Programer(I used this) ,etc...)
3. SilverCard (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silvercardtipfq1.jpg)
4. Your SIM card (It must be a V1 ,U must be able to get Ki number)
5. Download :
SimEmu 6.01 - http://simemu.gsmhosting.net/SIM_EMU_6.01_CFG_v2.1.zip
Woronscan 1.09 - http://www.kinforce.com/down/kinforce/supersim/ws109.zip



1. ::Getting IMSI,ICCID & Ki number from your SIMs::

Step 1 - Your(V1)SIM

1. Put your carrier SIM card in programer
2. Run Woronscan
3. Click on "Tasks" tab then on "IMSI select" u will get a IMSI number, write it down.
4. Click on "Task" tab then on "ICC select" u will get a ICCID number, write it down.
5. Click on "Tasks" tab then on "Ki search", in pop-up window just click "Search", and wait,Ki extraction has began.(I was waiting for mine 40 min:eek: ) When u get it, write it down.

Step 2 - Getting IMSI from AT&T SIM card which came with an iPhone

1. Put your AT&T SIM card in programer
2. Click on "Tasks" then on "IMSI select" u will get a IMSI number, write it down.
3. Close Woronscan
4. Remove SIM from programer

Now U have all "data" to make SuperSim.


2. ::Making SuperSim:::D

1. Download & extract - http://rapid_share.com/files/146099341/iPhone_EEPROM_FLASH.rar.html(Remove dash "-")
1.a Put your Silvercard in programer
2. Run Sim-Emu 6.01 Configurator v2.1
3. Click on Configure tab
4. Click "Read from disk" button
5. Browse to your downloaded Flash&EEPROM files, first double click on SIM_EMU_6.01_iphone_u1.HEX and then double click on SIM_EMU_6.01_iphone_u1_EP.HEX, now they are loaded,positions 0 and 9 are red colored,thats fine.

6. In position 0 , type in data which u got from your carrier SIM with Woronscan - IMSI,Ki & ICCID!
For ADN/SMS/FDN# type 161, 15, 4, for SMS Centre type in your carrier SMS center number. Type in
some numbers for PIN1 and PUK1, remember it.

7. Now select position "9", here type IMSI from AT&T SIM card ,and PIN1 ,PUK1 number same like in position "0" ,NOTHING ELSE!

8. In "Config mode" tick "Files" circle button.

9. Click on "Write to disk" button,u'll be asked to save new created SuperSim Flash&Eeprom files,Save it!

10. Write those NEW created Flash&Eeprom files on Silvercard with your programer software!

11. How to cut big card to SIM - http://www.mobileshop.org/usertech/simcutting.htm



3. ::Making your iPhone work with SuperSim::

1. Put your created SuperSIM in iPhone

2. Jailbreak & Activate your iPhone and thats it, u should now get signal!
(search the forum for "How To" for your iPhone version)


Note: If U will be using 1.1.2 U NEED iWorld application to make SMS and phone work, u can find it in Installer-->Tweaks(1.1.2). Install it, run it, select your country, reboot iPhone if it doesnt automaticly.

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::Manual Activation::OPTIONAL
- If after Jailbreak and Activation your iPhone still dont accept SuperSim proceed below:


1. Download - http://rapid_share.com/files/74205465/SuperSim.rar ,unrar folder from inside to Desktop

2. Go to - https://ookoo.org/iphone/iasign.php ,under Activator v0.2 type in DEVICE ID, IMEI ,ICCID. Click "Generate"

If u're on WIN click on "download a custom activator v0.2" to download *.exe , now move it to SuperSim folder.

If u're on MAC click on download your generated activation record to download *.plist file TO DESKTOP. (after download RENAME IT TO a.plist !!!!!!)


WINDOWS

While your iPhone is still connected to PC double click iphoneinterface.exe in SuperSim folder,now type one command at the time:

cd /System/Library/Lockdown/

putfile /System/Library/Lockdown/iPhoneActivation.pem

exit

Now double click that long digit exe file u downloaded in step 3. to activate your iPhone with SuperSim!



MAC

1. Copy iPhoneActivation.pem from SuperSim folder to /System/Library/Lockdown/ ,with your favorite tool

2. Download the following file to your Mac.
http://anderson-technologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/iphonetool.zip

3. Extract it to a directory on your desktop named iPhoneTool , AND COPY YOUR DOWNLOADED a.plist file OVER that one already inside!

4. Open the program “Terminal” location in HardDrive/Applications/Utilities

5. Type the following command into the flashing cursor:

cd ~/Desktop/iPhoneTool

6. Now make sure your iPhone is connected and you quit iTunes

7. To activate your iPhone type the following command into the flashing cursor
(note that there are two dashes before activate):

./tool --activate a.plist






EDIT: I changed tutorial so that u use ICCID from your carrier SIM. (Thanx ozbimmer)
EDIT: Added link to new SIM_EMU_6.01_iPhone_u1(Thanx Vladimir_CDI)
EDIT: Removed step to disable PIN in Woronscan,added info how to disable PIN in iPhone
EDIT: Refreshed activation
EDIT: Update regarding AT&T(or O2) SIM card
EDIT: Added Donation Option
EDIT: Rearanged because of manual activation confusion

pendalf
08-05-2007, 05:51 PM
very nice description!

Sassha
08-05-2007, 05:55 PM
very nice description!

may be you could give also the hardware tipps, like card writer, silvercard, ect...

thanks
pen

ps.: do you still can´t receive calls?

I can receive calls....:cool:

ssnake937
08-05-2007, 06:06 PM
Can you connect to EDGE and do all this for free?

RVN84
08-05-2007, 06:08 PM
sassha did you get your programmer/silvercard locally?

I'm currently in Italy but will be leaving tomorrow. does anyone know anywhere in Naples where I can get it, or in Geneva, Switzerland, or otherwise maybe it would be a good idea to post webshops cause cetainly many ppl will be interested?

Tabula
08-05-2007, 06:09 PM
I can receive calls....:cool:

Could you please explain what you can do with the iPhone and what don't works?

What kind of silvercard? Google delivers a lot of stuff. :-(

Zf_
08-05-2007, 06:10 PM
Thanks for the tutorial, nice work

To summarize once more :) - this solution is supposed to be a clean network registration, and using a Silvercard is a temporary step to another version, with different hardware necessary, which will work on all subscriptions, with no cloning necessary, if this step is validated and hardware experts join the party :)

So people able to test it should try it and report their results, especially regarding incoming calls.

If some guys have access to a GSM radio analyzer (let's dream :D, but why not, with the upcoming CCC gathering who knows), verifying that no "unexpected" data is emitted on the radio channel and that the registration is indeed normal would be ideal.

DMannOC
08-05-2007, 06:14 PM
So, what exactly will not work with unlocking the iphone with this method?

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:17 PM
Can you connect to EDGE and do all this for free?

Nope in Croatia...

Ganzonero
08-05-2007, 06:17 PM
Sassha can u please tell us if this method has any problem, like if u run out of battery will u need to do it all over again?

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:17 PM
sassha did you get your programmer/silvercard locally?

I'm currently in Italy but will be leaving tomorrow. does anyone know anywhere in Naples where I can get it, or in Geneva, Switzerland, or otherwise maybe it would be a good idea to post webshops cause cetainly many ppl will be interested?

Yes,locally....

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:19 PM
Could you please explain what you can do with the iPhone and what don't works?

What kind of silvercard? Google delivers a lot of stuff. :-(

Everything is working, except YouTube app...

Its only one kind of Silvercard....All Sattelite equipment stores should have it...

deepdark
08-05-2007, 06:19 PM
ALL OK here

in /out calls works perfect
in /out sms works perfect


cheers ;)

uby64braz
08-05-2007, 06:22 PM
sassha did you get your programmer/silvercard locally?

I'm currently in Italy but will be leaving tomorrow. does anyone know anywhere in Naples where I can get it, or in Geneva, Switzerland, or otherwise maybe it would be a good idea to post webshops cause cetainly many ppl will be interested?
Ciao RVN84,
mi sto dando da fare anche io, il primo che trova qualcosa in Italia avvisa l'altro?
Io sono di Torino, ma in questo momento sono in Brasile.

Ti ho mandato un msg personale.

Grazie.

Sorry for all people, but my english is very veruy funny!!!

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:25 PM
Sassha can u please tell us if this method has any problem, like if u run out of battery will u need to do it all over again?

Dunno about battery...but my iPhone was OFF all night, in the morning when I power it ON all work just fine! No issues ,yet....if this will work with no issues,I dont need to wait "Total Unlock" anymore. :D

Tabula
08-05-2007, 06:27 PM
ALL OK here

in /out calls works perfect
in /out sms works perfect


cheers ;)

brilliant..

Will that method be "save" for future updates or is it possible
that a simple software update for the iphone will cancel that?

Sorry for those silly question. :p

deepdark
08-05-2007, 06:30 PM
Dunno about battery...but my iPhone was OFF all night, in the morning when I power it ON all work just fine! No issues ,yet....if this will work with no issues,I dont need to wait "Total Unlock" anymore. :D

sashha you are totaly right i made this test i powered off and on maybe 10 times removed the sim card (clone) inserted At&T (original ) one and back again clone all is working very well...

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:30 PM
brilliant..

Will that method be "save" for future updates or is it possible
that a simple software update for the iphone will cancel that?

Sorry for those silly question. :p

Ha! I dont know....I dont have balls to try :p

Zf_
08-05-2007, 06:31 PM
brilliant..

Will that method be "save" for future updates or is it possible
that a simple software update for the iphone will cancel that?

Sorry for those silly question. :p

oh, it's not a silly question at all :)

Unfortunately it can be patched and disabled quite easily. But if you don't perform any baseband update you should be safe.

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:32 PM
ALL OK here

in /out calls works perfect
in /out sms works perfect


cheers ;)

Finally! :D

sam
08-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Please note that what you doin is consdired illegal and might lead to a fine for altering telcommunication networks or similar. This is noticed yb your carrier and in many countries, its plain illegal. Don't blame anyone on the forum if they call you, block your account or police comes visit for a talk.

Sassha
08-05-2007, 06:46 PM
Please note that what you doin is consdired illegal and might lead to a fine for altering telcommunication networks or similar. This is noticed yb your carrier and in many countries, its plain illegal. Don't blame anyone on the forum if they call you, block your account or police comes visit for a talk.

Police dont have to come,now they can call me on iPhone! I have call in though! :D

uby64braz
08-05-2007, 06:52 PM
Police dont have to come,now they can call me on iPhone! I have call in though! :D

:D :D :D

ozbimmer
08-05-2007, 06:53 PM
Sassha: I agree with sam. careful about what you write :)

Zf_
08-05-2007, 06:56 PM
Please note that what you doin is consdired illegal and might lead to a fine for altering telcommunication networks or similar. This is noticed yb your carrier and in many countries, its plain illegal. Don't blame anyone on the forum if they call you, block your account or police comes visit for a talk.

the point is precisely to validate if this method is transparent for the network, and it should be discontinued if it isn't.

This is not a generic "SIM cloning & register with pre-existing files" attack.

Tabula
08-05-2007, 07:01 PM
the point is precisely to validate if this method is transparent for the network, and it should be discontinued if it isn't.

This is not a generic "SIM cloning & register with pre-existing files" attack.

now i'm totally confused. :-(

Is a software hack not illegal at all? My handy provider is able to see that i'm using a cloned (illegal) sim?

slmrvoge
08-05-2007, 07:07 PM
who knows wher in switzerland i can buy this "silvercard" (is there only one - 24C64?) and the infinity usb programmer?
i use sunrise in switzerland..

thanks from sunny switzerland, greatings to all & sorry for my bad english
ps: are there somme other swiss here?

pendalf
08-05-2007, 07:08 PM
I can receive calls....:cool:

really, thats happened?
how did you do that?

ozbimmer
08-05-2007, 07:11 PM
I think a disclaimer should be added to the tutorial. Also, I think it's botherline legal to extract information from sim and putting it on another sim even you are the registered/paid user of that original sim. Don't want to get into legal minefield :)

BTW, I am going to write a tutorial/guide but it seems Sassha has made a headstart... I don't want to create more threads on "sim cloning" method (and I don't sam would appreciate it :)) So you guys have missed out :) Anyway, have fun!!

neckarb
08-05-2007, 07:16 PM
with this method do you get use of EDGE? all be it a costly use? thanks in advance. Neckarb

pendalf
08-05-2007, 07:20 PM
I think a disclaimer should be added to the tutorial. Also, I think it's botherline legal to extract information from sim and putting it on another sim even you are the registered/paid user of that original sim. Don't want to get into legal minefield :)

BTW, I am going to write a tutorial/guide but it seems Sassha has made a headstart... I don't want to create more threads on "sim cloning" method (and I don't sam would appreciate it :)) So you guys have missed out :) Anyway, have fun!!

oz:
whats happened on the fact, what you can´t receive calls?

ozbimmer
08-05-2007, 07:30 PM
pendalf: the method has bred too many threads... have a look at the original thread about your question on incoming calls

pendalf
08-05-2007, 07:34 PM
pendalf: the method has bred too many threads... have a look at the original thread about your question on incoming calls

wich one, super sim or iphone registered on overseas network?

petermann
08-05-2007, 07:43 PM
I´m newbie from berlin/germany and i´m not a tekkie like most of u:) is there anybody who could make me a SuperSIM? if it works i will donate. please help me. i wanna use my iPhoen NOW! thx in advance

sam
08-05-2007, 07:53 PM
the point is precisely to validate if this method is transparent for the network, and it should be discontinued if it isn't.

This is not a generic "SIM cloning & register with pre-existing files" attack.

The problem is ICCID is validated with the network. If your provider gets nasty they migth just block your account because you raised a fraud alert (cloned sim of victim for freecalls etc.).
In other countries, even if its sounds stupid, such things are considred "altering/tampering of telecommunication network" which is fined (i.e. here wehre I live) with a minimum fine of 3 yrs and up to 5yr prison, based upon some state telecom monopolistic laws from the 70s/80s (the days you werent even allowed to open your phone yourself without facing a fine).
So I tell you be careful with altering network specific things.

jacoch
08-05-2007, 08:47 PM
who knows wher in switzerland i can buy this "silvercard" (is there only one - 24C64?) and the infinity usb programmer?
i use sunrise in switzerland..

thanks from sunny switzerland, greatings to all & sorry for my bad english
ps: are there somme other swiss here?

Sure. From Switzerland too. And according to this forum, it seems that sim cards older than 2005 from Sunrise and Swisscom may work (http://gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-213686.html).

SebSter85
08-05-2007, 09:19 PM
Can anyone confirm/deny whether this method works with Rogers in Canada?

Paddy
08-05-2007, 09:23 PM
Will this method work in the UK? I am on O2. (sorry for the newbie-ness of this post)

the_gts
08-05-2007, 09:29 PM
http://www.rapi****re.com/files/4693....01_iPhone.rar <--- this gives a file not found error on r*p*i*Share.com

danelli999
08-05-2007, 09:32 PM
WoronScan_1.09 don´t start with Windows XP SP2.

What can I do?

I have an Infinity USB unlimited card reader/writer.

Vladimir_CDI
08-05-2007, 09:34 PM
I totally agree with SAM:

I recommend to everybody who are likes to try SuperSim method at least use
all ICCID, IMSI and KI from your local subscription (you will need to activate iPhone using your own ICCID in this case).

Everyone better know country where they live. But this is like food or medicine - you can decide by yourself.

All we do in our life is for our own risk.
Again I agree with Sam: Be CAREFUL

Assad
08-05-2007, 09:44 PM
Hi, can we use a recent SIM (early 2007) ? Or we must use a old sim card ? How do we know that it's a V1 sim card ?

For info, I'am living in Switzerland and Orange is my provider.

Thanks :)

iphoneblog
08-05-2007, 09:45 PM
Is it possible to use and old sim-card or is a blanc card needed. I will have all the things to try it tomorrow except the blanc sim-card. Can I use an old one and delete the information on it?

Sassha
08-05-2007, 10:04 PM
I totally agree with SAM:

I recommend to everybody who are likes to try SuperSim method at least use
all ICCID, IMSI and KI from your local subscription (you will need to activate iPhone using your own ICCID in this case).

Everyone better know country where they live. But this is like food or medicine - you can decide by yourself.

All we do in our life is for our own risk.
Again I agree with Sam: Be CAREFUL

So why we used at&t ICCid then?

andrew77hun
08-05-2007, 10:11 PM
please see your pm

jowo
08-05-2007, 10:15 PM
does it work with the new 1.0.1 iPhone firmware?

and will this work...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/12in1-Sim-Card-Clone-Duplicate-Backup-Copy-Writer-MAX_W0QQitemZ320143261557QQihZ011QQcategoryZ48501Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


thanks

iMags
08-05-2007, 10:21 PM
Can I use this Super Sim Card (http://cgi.ebay.ca/12in1-Sim-Card-Clone-Duplicate-Backup-Copy-Writer-MAX_W0QQitemZ320143261557QQihZ011QQcategoryZ48501Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)?
...or do I have to get SilverCard?
(in that case... where the hell?)

RVN84
08-05-2007, 10:22 PM
I assume also this one wont work, right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Sim-Card-Clone-Duplicate-Backup-Copy-Writer-16in1_W0QQitemZ320143261621QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4850 1QQcmdZViewItem

I found the silvercard and programmer in the end, already ordered, but i have a couple of the above from an old project...

lvcid
08-05-2007, 10:40 PM
Hey guys, where can I buy a Silvercard online???

Thanks for the tutorial!

Shade.sh
08-05-2007, 10:41 PM
Hi all,

one question, i reactivated one very old sim card (year 2000) and one which is build around 2006, how can i see which version this sim cards are? Is there a tool out there which can tell me what version the simcard is i.e COM128V1 or COM128V2?

Another question is, is it true that extraction from "modern" simcards are risky because it can destroy the simcard?

Thanks for you answers

Shade

Shade.sh
08-05-2007, 10:43 PM
Hey guys, where can I buy a Silvercard online???

Thanks for the tutorial!

You can buy one in italy, online at: http://www.modchip.it

lvcid
08-05-2007, 10:47 PM
You can buy one in italy, online at: http://www.modchip.it

I can't find it in that page... Can you send me the direct link to the Silvercard?

lvcid
08-05-2007, 10:50 PM
http://www.modchip.it/shop/detail.asp?lng=EN&idprod=151

Found it!... But do I have to cut it???

macboots
08-05-2007, 10:55 PM
Hi all.

It would be great if someone could point where to buy (example: ebay) the items needed to do this in the US (not limited to it, of course, other countries aswell). I've been trying to look around ebay, but can't find any, mainly beacuse don't know exactly what I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance!

Shade.sh
08-05-2007, 11:02 PM
http://www.modchip.it/shop/detail.asp?lng=EN&idprod=151

Found it!... But do I have to cut it???

Yea i think so. The manual to cut it is on the tutorial on first side of that tread. It's easy to do this, so don't worry about that. I can say it for sure, if it had to be cutted or not, after mine is delivered to me.

Fryingdutchman
08-05-2007, 11:07 PM
Shouldn't someone put a warning in the first post about the dangers and possible fines you would risk with this simmethod? I can see the threads with 'my provider blocked my subscription' or something similar allready. ;)

italianjob
08-05-2007, 11:09 PM
Ok. I have read, understood what is to be done and I'm ready to accept the risks in doing so.
I only need this last info: I can see people from Italy on the forum, and I see for example that both rsivan and palu use TIM, which is my operator too. How old are the sim cards you are extracting the Ki from? I think I have a 32k from some years ago, will it work?
What sim did you use? 8k, 16k....?

Also, if others from Milano want to do this we can arrange to work together, I can see that the price of the card writer is about 70 Euros with shipping and 12 Euros for the silvercard, we can order together and share the price.

Ciao

smman
08-06-2007, 12:36 AM
sassha did you get your programmer/silvercard locally?

I'm currently in Italy but will be leaving tomorrow. does anyone know anywhere in Naples where I can get it, or in Geneva, Switzerland, or otherwise maybe it would be a good idea to post webshops cause cetainly many ppl will be interested?
In Italy (also Europe) you can buy silvercards and hardware at www.telcominstrument.com
(info got from PALU, thank you)

smman
08-06-2007, 12:40 AM
HI, I am from San Marino, I bought the hardware (card writer) too, I would like to share an evening with someone who has some knownledge on this method giving for free my hardware use + 1 silver card (I bought 3). In our office we have DSL and various PC / MAC... so any help is welcome please send a private message.
I have a TMS (TIM) Sim card... it's 128k but I will try to arrange to have a lower profile with TMS tomorrow. KR

logic
08-06-2007, 12:54 AM
can anyone confirm if this method has worked in the UK (02, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Orange)

Not having much luck extracting KI.

lieb39
08-06-2007, 02:06 AM
Anyone successfully use this in Australia yet? If so, where did you get the all the hardware for it?

Cheers

iphoneblog
08-06-2007, 02:09 AM
What is happening in STEP 2

"Step 2
For already "fake activated" iPhones ,u need to have the AT&T SIM that it came with iPhone in it to get deactivation to work.

MAC - http://www.hacktheiphone.com/iphone_...intel_mac.html
WIN - http://www.hacktheiphone.com/iphone_...r_windows.html"

I already broke the jail. Do I have to to STEP2? And when YES with what ICCID-Number (my german one?)

I'm in Germany with an o2 contract.

Thanks

Focher
08-06-2007, 02:28 AM
In Australia: www.satcom.com.au

Just ordered mine so haven't tried it.

lieb39
08-06-2007, 03:39 AM
Thank you very much Focher -

What does everyone recommend,

"Infinity Programmer USB" http://www.satcom.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=41
or
"Infinity Phoenix/USB Programmer" http://www.satcom.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=84

or neither? lol

Thanks,

lieb39

soleil97200
08-06-2007, 04:19 AM
Hzllo,

I working in a MAC, where i can find Hardware and sylvercard,

i live in French and my provider is orange.

Thanks for the tutorials, Good Job

zhihmeng
08-06-2007, 05:36 AM
Hello
I have a very old sim writer named phoenix card writer.
can I use this phoenix card writer for this super sim method?
Thank you guys in advances.

bo1nk
08-06-2007, 07:01 AM
I already activated my iphone via prepaid (not hacked)...

Do I need to reactivate using the iphoneinterface to get supersim to work?

parkertseng
08-06-2007, 07:24 AM
Hi guys,
For those who have successfully with this method, how about with the old sim?
Is it still available?
Can it be placed into an other phone and use it with the supersim at the same time?
Or one of the sim can operate at a time?
Thanks!

babak
08-06-2007, 07:45 AM
I'm sorry if I'm a little lost - but what exactly does this do that makes it illegal and could possibly get you behind bars? I know lots of things like downloading stuff is illegal, but that won't get you behind bars - theirs low chances. This one is much more serious it seems. I'd appreciate a clarification. Thanks!

Raxin
08-06-2007, 09:33 AM
Could anybody form Taiwan can tell me where to buy the "silvercarnd" and "Dynamite Programer" , i can't wait to try this , although there might some legal issue about this , but satisfying my curiousness is the most purpose for it !

:D

parkertseng
08-06-2007, 09:36 AM
writer is located in taichung and card is in taoyuan....
the order will arrive tomorrow, will let you know !

Don_Ron
08-06-2007, 10:44 AM
Where in the US can I buy ONLINE the needed:
- Sim card reader/writer
- Silvercard
Thanks

Raxin
08-06-2007, 11:08 AM
writer is located in taichung and card is in taoyuan....
the order will arrive tomorrow, will let you know !

thanks parker ! as soon as you can provide the info , i must purchase one for a tried of OZ's method in Taiwan ... i wanna my i"Phone" alive ! ;)

anzhu
08-06-2007, 11:38 AM
Raxin, parkertseng I am also in Taipei. I went to guanghua today to look for the silver card and sim reader/writer with no luck. Can I add you guys on msn ? Much easier to communicate that way. I will send you guys a PM.

JuniorJack
08-06-2007, 12:23 PM
Hi,

Just tested it - works fine with Orange UK - Call In/Out, SMS In/Out. Great job to
everyone who made this possible (specially to the guy that edited the Hex file).

I used the subscriber ICCID, so maybe is best to edit the tutorial - activation should
be the last step.

My thoughts on safety of using this: If so called 'Total Unlock' is released, it will be
probably patching of the baseband firmware to do a similar thing. So no worry about
alerting the network, the trick seems to fool only the good/bad guy check in the
baseband firmware.

BR

thommy.n
08-06-2007, 01:41 PM
@ Sassha & JuniorJack

sound nice ... Call In/out and SMS in/out is working

What is about an online connection? Wheather it is GPRS or of course EDGE...

does it work too?

Nice to here from you.
Tom

Floctiosus
08-06-2007, 01:46 PM
Hm

i have an one Year old T-mobile Sim ( germany)
I guess this one could be to new ??

cashgrow
08-06-2007, 02:12 PM
is it possible to use the "goldcard" instead of the "silvercard" ?

Sassha
08-06-2007, 02:35 PM
is it possible to use the "goldcard" instead of the "silvercard" ?

No, it doesnt have enough memory...

Sassha
08-06-2007, 02:37 PM
@ Sassha & JuniorJack

sound nice ... Call In/out and SMS in/out is working

What is about an online connection? Wheather it is GPRS or of course EDGE...

does it work too?

Nice to here from you.
Tom

No for me....i think these USA iPhones have only EDGE, but here in Cro we dont have EDGE, only GPRS, 3G....so its not working,but if your country have EDGE it should work! I do see "E" letter by the carrier logo.:cool:

Tabula
08-06-2007, 02:39 PM
What about a newer newer card which is needed to use umts on my current phone.. I think that could not work, hm? Or is it quite the same? On top of the AT&T is also a 3G sign.. hmm

Sassha, you should read your pm. :-)

spiffy
08-06-2007, 02:41 PM
Is it possible to extract these informations (imsi....etc) from a 64k sim card(italian TIM sim card)?

niknyce
08-06-2007, 02:48 PM
really nice work jasonm :D cheers mate

lolo2002sss
08-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Heeeeeeeeeey i am really happy that u was able to unlock iphone but i wonder if i can unlock it here in egypt and if so what should i ask one of my friends living in the us to bring with him beside the iphone :) to be able to unlock it

thank u sooooooooooo much for ur help :)

iphonehome
08-06-2007, 03:39 PM
does it work with the new 1.0.1 iPhone firmware?

and will this work...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/12in1-Sim-Card-Clone-Duplicate-Backup-Copy-Writer-MAX_W0QQitemZ320143261557QQihZ011QQcategoryZ48501Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


thanks

no one gave any indication if this type of reader/writer will work. will it??

jalexuk
08-06-2007, 03:44 PM
Wow that was quick! Congrats. I'm on O2 in the UK, but my SIM is relatively new - about 2yrs old - so does that mean its probably a V2?

I've also got an older O2 SIM (a 32K one) issued via CPW (Carphonewarehouse); is there any way of telling if that's a V1? I am wondering if go into CPW and get a new O2 account whether they could assign the number to that older SIM (if its a V1) and I could then clone it onto a Silvercard to use it in the iPhone... I can get access to a Duolabs Dynamite Programmer, and could easily order a Silvercard if it was worth it...

Does anyone know who/if anyone still issues V1 SIM cards in the UK, or when they stopped doing so...? I'm dying to try this out if its possible.

GoodCat
08-06-2007, 03:45 PM
I have an importand Question!
Why must i take a V1 Sim card?
Is ist because the Crack-Software can read the ID & Ki just from a V1 Sim Card
Or is the ID & Ki on an V2,V3 diffrent from an V1?

I live in Germany and called today to my Provider and tolled tham that i need the Information about my Sim Card (V3 Card)
I allso tolled tham that i whant to make an image from my Sim Card and need this Information for it.
Thay sayed the will send me the Infos i need on email and that is ok to make an Backup Sim!

So if i will have the ID & Ki why cant i make an Supersim?
Why is it so importand to have a V1 Sim Card:confused:

Sassha
08-06-2007, 03:58 PM
I have an importand Question!
Why must i take a V1 Sim card?
Is ist because the Crack-Software can read the ID & Ki just from a V1 Sim Card
Or is the ID & Ki on an V2,V3 diffrent from an V1?

I live in Germany and called today to my Provider and tolled tham that i need the Information about my Sim Card (V3 Card)
I allso tolled tham that i whant to make an image from my Sim Card and need this Information for it.
Thay sayed the will send me the Infos i need on email and that is ok to make an Backup Sim!

So if i will have the ID & Ki why cant i make an Supersim?
Why is it so importand to have a V1 Sim Card:confused:

Because only from old V1 SIM card you're able to get Ki number! Other newer SIMs(V2.V3) have better security,so Woronscan or any other software will not be able to get Ki out!

GoodCat
08-06-2007, 04:09 PM
But my Provider sayed today that he will send me my ID and my Ki to me so i dont need to Crack it!!!!!

So the only reason why its not work with an V2,V3 is because the Crack cant find the Ki?

Floctiosus
08-06-2007, 04:13 PM
@*Goodcat:

Gib mir mal bitte bescheid welchen Provider du in Deutschland hast und ob das geklappt hat.
Ich habe leider auch nur eine Sim die ca. ein jahr alt ist.
Wäre schön wenn es auch damit irgendwie klappen würde.
(bin bei T-mobile)
Grüße,
Flo

StefanM
08-06-2007, 04:15 PM
Does anybody know where to get the usb reader and silvercards in germany?

I have not found any company, which sells silvercards in germany??!?!

GoodCat
08-06-2007, 04:25 PM
Bei Conrad gibts den Simcard-Leser!!!!!!!

Die Silverkart kann man schon ab 6 Euro in jedem guten Sateliten Laden bekommen!
Wichtig ist der Mist mit der V1!:D

pppihdl
08-06-2007, 04:29 PM
hast a url für an guten sat laden zum online bestellen für die silvercard?

danke!

nikibs
08-06-2007, 04:31 PM
does anyone know if this method works with a legitimately activated iphone. i canceled the ATT account afterwards

Sassha
08-06-2007, 04:32 PM
But my Provider sayed today that he will send me my ID and my Ki to me so i dont need to Crack it!!!!!

So the only reason why its not work with an V2,V3 is because the Crack cant find the Ki?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!:D

berkar
08-06-2007, 04:35 PM
Hi everybody,

I write from Hungary and first I wish good work to unlock the Iphone!

I read all reply in this forum, and I have one last question:

that, if I buy Iphone from ebay, with at&t prepaid sim card,

and I do and buy all things like silver card, card reader writer etc..

I will can use the iphone in Hungary all functions in T-Mobile network? because I have

T-Mobile in Hungary??????

I wait the answer, whats the truth, thank you very much



berkar

Floctiosus
08-06-2007, 04:38 PM
@ goodcat:

dann kommt es jetzt nur noch darauf an ob du die Ki bekommst, würde mich interessieren !

Ich habe nämlich auch eine eher aktuelle Simkarte.

Wenn nicht: woher bekommt man denn eine alte Sim ???

Grüße,
Flo

Tabula
08-06-2007, 04:38 PM
narf!

Ok, then i'm out with my german o2 v3 sim..

:-(

StefanM
08-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Wie krieg ich denn raus was für eine SIM ich habe?

Ich hab ne ganz aktuelle Vodafone Karte bekommen. Mit UMTS.

Und die AT&T karte, die bei dem iPhone dabei war!

StefanM
08-06-2007, 04:46 PM
Noch eine andere Frage...

die Deutschen unter Euch... wo kommt ihr denn her?
Irgendjemand aus der Nähe Dortmund?

Eventuell kann man das unlocking/Sim Cloning ja zusammen in Angriff nehmen?!

Spart zudem KosteN!

Tabula
08-06-2007, 04:48 PM
@StefanM
Bin aus Aachen, habe wie du wohl eine UMTS Karte.
Damit können wir es wohl beide komplett vergessen leider.

GoodCat
08-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Ich glaubs auch nicht das ich die Ki bekomme. Wären ja dum mir die zuschicken.
Aber hey fragen kann man ja bekanntlich!

Wobei ich mir ernsthaft in den Arsch beisen kann das ich vor paar Monaten mein Vodafone Vertrag gekündigt habe! Da war ne 3-4 Jahre alte Karte drin die wäre gegangen.
Naja wenns mein Provider die nicht rausrückt ists für mich erstmall vorbei denn den 128Bit Schlüssel einer V3 Karte bekommt man kaum so schnell auf.

Ne alte Karte zu suchen macht kein sin!!!!!
Den sie bring nur dan was wenn sie noch activiert ist und funktioniert!
Also ne alte ausm Keller vom 2 Jahre alten Telefon ausbauen bringt nichts es muss eine sein die inbetireb ist und jeden tag benutzt wird und zwar von euch! Die Karte vom Nachbarn bringt auch nix!!!!!! Den dan würdet ihr auf seine Kosten telefonieren und das wird er kaum zulassen!

P.S. Bin aus München

Floctiosus
08-06-2007, 04:52 PM
So ein Shit !

Wenn jemand von euch ne möglichkeit findet schreibt mit ne PN !

Bin aus München !

cashgrow
08-06-2007, 04:55 PM
english please!!

pendalf
08-06-2007, 04:59 PM
@StefanM
Bin aus Aachen, habe wie du wohl eine UMTS Karte.
Damit können wir es wohl beide komplett vergessen leider.

hat jemand mit einer e-plus simkarte mal probiert?
die karte ist von 2004, denke keine umts...

thanks
pen

transl.: did someone try this with the eplus sim, the sim is from 2004, i think without umts.

eTe
08-06-2007, 05:03 PM
Will it work with simpler sim-card editors as this one on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SIM-Card-Reader-Backup-Cloner-SMS-Editor-for-CDMA-GSM_W0QQitemZ190136711051QQihZ009QQcategoryZ48501Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

bo1nk
08-06-2007, 05:04 PM
does anyone know if this method works with a legitimately activated iphone. i canceled the ATT account afterwards

I'm also curious if this will work I don't want to lose youtube :p

GoodCat
08-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Will it work with simpler sim-card editors as this one on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SIM-Card-Reader-Backup-Cloner-SMS-Editor-for-CDMA-GSM_W0QQitemZ190136711051QQihZ009QQcategoryZ48501Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Yes it will work! But be Carefull with your Original Sim card

smman
08-06-2007, 05:21 PM
HI,
Just an advice to all people trying this method.
Most carriers do offer a "TWIN" sim card (a sim card that can receive calls like the original card and make calls as well) This can cost some euros but it's worth for 2 reasons:

1) the carrier will know that you have 2 sims
2) usually these sims are old (because they are sold not often as the "master" ones)

Today I managed a twin sim with my local provided (TMS) wich is Tim / ITALY - it's a 64 k... so I can work on this instead of my main one...

I hope this can help.

TOMORROW WILL BE MY INDEPENDENCE DAY ... (I HOPE) !

Diet
08-06-2007, 05:34 PM
Hi,

have a look here: http://www.makinterface.de/forum/read.php?f=6&i=2065&t=2065

That's about the COMP128 algorithm and it's also written there that on a COMP128 V2 SIM the KI cannot be extracted using any software actually on the market!

Also there is a hint that T-Mobile doesn't use COMP at all!

So I'd say "no chance in Germany" :(

@GoodCat: I'm not sure if your provider did understand your request - I can't believe that you will get the KI ... please keep us posted ;)

cu, Diet
T-Mobile customer from Germany

geoffwright
08-06-2007, 05:57 PM
All,

I really, really would like to get an iPhone but theres just so much noise happening at the moment. Is it not possible for somebody to make a sticky, with an EXACT how too, explaining all of the jargon that n00bs like moi cannot understand.

I'm sure the person that does this will get an infinite amount of respect for the next 4 zillion years.

Cheeerrrss,

Geoff

berkar
08-06-2007, 06:02 PM
Hi everybody,

I write from Hungary, and I have mobile since 1996, the same SIM card!!! I think it is enough old, and I bought everything, but please write me,
that where can I buy at&t card, because I have not at&t sim to do supersim?!?

Thanks, berkar

Don_Ron
08-06-2007, 06:08 PM
Does anybody know where in the US can I buy online:

- The Sim card reader/writer
- The Silvercard

Needed to do the trick? I makes no sense to buy this from an Australian website as shipping is either impossible or expensive and slow.

Thank you,
R o n

GoGo22
08-06-2007, 06:17 PM
Like you guys can see iam new.

Are there any Dutchies that can confirm that it works in the Netherlands ?

Also where can i get the Silvercard? All others i have Simcard from Dutchtone that i have sinds 1999/2000 i think (hope) its a V1 card :)

But still i dont know where i can get the Silvercard. I think also that there are a lot of noobs likeme that can use a step by step explanation about this hack. Some point are not that clear to me lik how do we get the KI from the SIMcard ?

eTe
08-06-2007, 06:21 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!:D

So if i can get my ID and Ki from my operator, can I use it anyway or what do you mean?

/E

berkar
08-06-2007, 06:27 PM
Hii,

I CALLED MY OPERATOR IN HUNGARY, THEY WAS VERY FRIENDLY,

THEY ASKED TO ME THE IMSI NUMBER BUT DONT KNOW WHAT IS Ki NUMBER..

PLEASE WRITE ME WHAT IS KI NUMBER IF THEY CALL BACK?? is it short word??


I wait for answer, please write somebody, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

GoodCat
08-06-2007, 06:41 PM
Subscriber Authentication Key = Ki

Für die deutschen: Authentisierungsschlüssel = Ki

shinishi_kudo
08-06-2007, 06:53 PM
is necesary what the old sim is activated?

deepdark
08-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Hii,

I CALLED MY OPERATOR IN HUNGARY, THEY WAS VERY FRIENDLY,

THEY ASKED TO ME THE IMSI NUMBER BUT DONT KNOW WHAT IS Ki NUMBER..

PLEASE WRITE ME WHAT IS KI NUMBER IF THEY CALL BACK?? is it short word??


I wait for answer, please write somebody, THANK YOU VERY MUCH



KI is not a Public you need a brute force your sim to get the KI ;)

qryptiq
08-06-2007, 06:57 PM
THIS IS INDEPENDCE DAY FOR US ALL......

although i'm extremely happy with my ATT account and will not be switching - i'm glad others may benefit from it......

kudos to the development team and Sasshaa....

SingleDouble
08-06-2007, 07:15 PM
Just in time for Steve to announce the hack tomorrow ! :p

ctohang
08-06-2007, 08:09 PM
May I know How can do, My carrier ICC ID contain charater "F", and the SIm-Emu doesn't allow any charactor on this, is it need to replace the Sim card?
Thanks!

berkar
08-06-2007, 08:17 PM
Hi,

can somebody tell me that I have silver card, V1 sim card, sim writer reader,
everything what need, but dont have at&t card, or I need at&t imsi number.
what can I do????

JSN1
08-06-2007, 08:20 PM
Hi everyone.
This is cool, however i got some questions.
I found this web site http://www.cellularcenter.it/ where you
can find all sort of SmartCard things.
There are a lot of things, and to be honest, I don´t know
what to purchase...

Help is appreciated.

deepdark
08-06-2007, 08:24 PM
Hi everyone.
This is cool, however i got some questions.
I found this web site http://www.cellularcenter.it/ where you
can find all sort of SmartCard things.
There are a lot of things, and to be honest, I don´t know
what to purchase...

Help is appreciated.


buy a WB infinity usb unlimited its a new techology fast and easy to use olso be ware of silvercard do nt buy with big CHIP????

ReyRey
08-06-2007, 08:27 PM
Anyone from Austria here? I'm a member of "One"! Has anyone tried it with this provider?
I'm locatet in Vienna, maybe someone would like to try it together!

JSN1
08-06-2007, 08:34 PM
What about the SILVER CARD - PICCARD 2

themagicman00
08-06-2007, 08:42 PM
Deep dark,
Can I use this card?
http://modchip.it/shop/detail.asp?lng=EN&idprod=151

I read your earlie post where you mention the silver card small and big, how do I differentiate them from each other?
thanks
Chris

Hookland
08-06-2007, 08:45 PM
i have a little question,
how i can insert my small sim card in the infinity programmer??
it have a big fissure for card.
I haven't buy it, but i am going to.
do work the cheap sim reader/writer on ebay?
it have only the sim fissure, how i can insert the silver card?

Italiano:
HO una piccola domanda, come metto la mia piccola sim nell'infinity programmer che ha la fessura grande per le card??+
Ancora non c'è l'ho ma vorrei comprarlo.
funzionano i programmatori di sim economici che stanno su ebay?
quelli però hanno lo spazio solo per la sim, ocme gli infilo la silver card? tagliandola?


Qualche italiano mi invi il suo contatto in privato ho bisogno di aiuto!

GoGo22
08-06-2007, 09:22 PM
Hi guys now, iam planning on to buy the next silvercard. I dont know if this is a big or small chip some one that can help me out if iam buying a wrong card ?

the name is: Silvercard IV Alpha Galaxy

if this is a wrong one can some one give me correct one,s name please ?

is this one the same ? Silvercard IV (Piccard IV) with 16F877 and 24C256

atshoom
08-06-2007, 09:24 PM
i've read info about IMSI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI
and it seems that the IMSI is made of
-Mobile Country Code digits and
-Mobile Network Code digits

wouldn't that be an easy way for a mobil phone company to see that you've hacked a SIM card ?
they just have to filter their DB with their network code and an US country code. (the country code of the original at&t IMSI).

Now, maybe they will let users do this hack, because if their user do it on their networks, it means that these users have an iphone and can potentially change their mobile company. letting users perform this hack would keep these users as subscribers.
---------
-what about roaming ? is your working iphone +supersim working exactly as a normal SIM outside of your country ?

-could the roaming mobile company you connect to discover your superSIM hack ?
-could the roaming company intend a legal action against you or your mobile company about it ?
-if yes, would this roaming company would do so ? could this lead international mobile companies to form 2 groups ? the "i have the apple phone group" (like at&t), and the oothers ?

is war beginnig with the ITU or oher international organizations ? will apple reply to that hack?

i'm impatient to see how this will turn in the futur.

mbellazzi@mac.com
08-06-2007, 09:32 PM
Hi guys, where may I get the sim writer and silvercard and the V1?

ashraf@samawi.com
08-06-2007, 09:40 PM
Thanks for all the great work guys...

can anyone point me in the right direction in terms of getting a card reader/writer and some silvercards... preferably some website where i can order them online...

thanks a million

berkar
08-06-2007, 09:41 PM
Is it good to make sim card to my iphone??

http://sim-max.biz/store/view_product.php?product=SM-IV-USB-SET

berkar
08-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Oh I found a new one that have 72 kB flash, and eeprom..

Is it good????????????

Or need more memory space on the card?????????????

Please write somebody!!!

yamefa
08-06-2007, 11:29 PM
Please someone could explain what is a V1 sim card ?? I have the infinity, the silver card, but I don't know what is a V1 sim card... Help !!!

maminyoo
08-07-2007, 12:48 AM
plz send me link for best buy these

1 . SIM Reader / Writer -- Infinity USB Unlimited, Dynamite Programmer, etc...
2 . SilverCard
3 . V1 SIM card (must be able to get Ki number)
iHave iPhone

dam
08-07-2007, 01:45 AM
Hi guys, where may I get the sim writer and silvercard and the V1?

i think they mean Version 1 sim cards

camel
08-07-2007, 02:29 AM
Vladimir, Russia, MTS. Can't get calls working (in/out). Everything else works just fine (edge, sms, wi-fi). I used WindowsXP and a Silvercard to activate the thing. Trust me, I double-checked everything before clicking "Ok". What can be wrong? Thanks in advance.

Zf_
08-07-2007, 02:32 AM
i've read info about IMSI
---------
-what about roaming ? is your working iphone +supersim working exactly as a normal SIM outside of your country ?
-could the roaming mobile company you connect to discover your superSIM hack ?
-could the roaming company intend a legal action against you or your mobile company about it ?



wow, an actually insightful post, cheers :D let's try to answer that

problem is, for the moment the hacked SIM emu is based upon a tip given in this forum some time ago that's not fully understood, but seems to work - the best given explanation is that there's a bug in the baseband, reading the IMSI more than once, and the 2 first IMSIs are only used internally to validate the SIM lock (i.e. they're not sent over the air).

so if this theory is proven to be right, the SIM should be seen exactely as the original subscription, and this hack should be fully transparent.


-if yes, would this roaming company would do so ? could this lead international mobile companies to form 2 groups ? the "i have the apple phone group" (like at&t), and the oothers ?


they could reject IMEIs, even if the unlock hack is transparent, but I don't think any operator will come to that, that would be pretty extreme


is war beginnig with the ITU or oher international organizations ? will apple reply to that hack?

i'm impatient to see how this will turn in the futur.

interesting times anyway, for sure :)

ikarus79m
08-07-2007, 02:35 AM
Hey guys,

I am currently in the US and purchased and activated my iPhone with AT&T (since I live out here) However, I'll be going to German next week for a month and would like to use my O2 (Former Viag Interkom) prepaid Sim-Card there.

Since this Sim card is pretty old (it's still from Viag Interkom) it should be a V1 correct?

I'm planning to purchase one of the following Sim Card Editor from Conrad Online:

Chipdrive Simcard Stick - Euro 17.95 (http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwV0dBVEU6Q19BR0FURTAzOjAwMDIuMDE4O C5iYTEyODcwYyZ+aHR0cF9jb250ZW50X2NoYXJzZXQ9aXNvLTg 4NTktMSZ+U3RhdGU9MTI2Mjg2NzM1OA==?~template=PCAT_A REA_S_BROWSE&mfhelp=&p_selected_area=%24ROOT&p_selected_area_fh=&perform_special_action=&glb_user_js=Y&shop=B2C&vgl_artikel_in_index=&product_show_id=&p_page_to_display=DirektSearch&~cookies=1&zhmmh_lfo=&zhmmh_area_kz=&s_haupt_kategorie=&p_searchstring=sim+card&p_searchstring_artnr=&p_search_category=alle&r3_matn=&insert_kz=&area_s_url=&brand=&amount=&new_item_quantity=&area_url=&direkt_aufriss_area=&p_countdown=&p_80=&p_80_category=&p_80_article=&p_next_template_after_login=&mindestbestellwert=&login=&password=&bpemail=&bpid=&url=&show_wk=&use_search=3&p_back_template=&template=&kat_save=&updatestr=&vgl_artikel_in_vgl=&titel=&darsteller=&regisseur=&anbieter=&genre=&fsk=&jahr=&jahr2=&dvd_error=X&dvd_empty_error=X&dvd_year_error=&call_dvd=&kna_news=&p_status_scenario=&documentselector=&aktiv=&p_load_area=$ROOT&p_artikelbilder_mode=&p_sortopt=&page=&p_catalog_max_results=20)

or

Hama Simcard Editor - Euro 14.95 (http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwV0dBVEU6Q19BR0FURTAzOjAwMDIuMDE4O C5iYTEyODcwYyZ+aHR0cF9jb250ZW50X2NoYXJzZXQ9aXNvLTg 4NTktMSZ+U3RhdGU9MTI2Mjg2NzM1OA==?~template=PCAT_A REA_S_BROWSE&mfhelp=&p_selected_area=%24ROOT&p_selected_area_fh=&perform_special_action=&glb_user_js=Y&shop=B2C&vgl_artikel_in_index=&product_show_id=&p_page_to_display=DirektSearch&~cookies=1&zhmmh_lfo=&zhmmh_area_kz=&s_haupt_kategorie=&p_searchstring=sim+card&p_searchstring_artnr=&p_search_category=alle&r3_matn=&insert_kz=&area_s_url=&brand=&amount=&new_item_quantity=&area_url=&direkt_aufriss_area=&p_countdown=&p_80=&p_80_category=&p_80_article=&p_next_template_after_login=&mindestbestellwert=&login=&password=&bpemail=&bpid=&url=&show_wk=&use_search=3&p_back_template=&template=&kat_save=&updatestr=&vgl_artikel_in_vgl=&titel=&darsteller=&regisseur=&anbieter=&genre=&fsk=&jahr=&jahr2=&dvd_error=X&dvd_empty_error=X&dvd_year_error=&call_dvd=&kna_news=&p_status_scenario=&documentselector=&aktiv=&p_load_area=$ROOT&p_artikelbilder_mode=&p_sortopt=&page=&p_catalog_max_results=20)

Will either one of them work? Or does it have to be the expansive Infinity USB Unlimited (http://www.infinityusb.com/default.asp?show=store&ProductGrp=1) for Euro 69?

As far as the Silvercard goes, where can you purchase that online either in Germany or the US? And is it hard to cut it to the right size? (You have to cut it to fit correct?)

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

PS: Do you still need to make your iPhone SuperSim compatible, even though, it has been legitimately activated with AT&T?

olek
08-07-2007, 04:23 AM
moin,

for german users and ikarus-->
silvercard:
http://www.berlin-satshop.de/silverw...f1e3df8604b80b
cardreader:
http://www.satport24.de/product_info.php?products_id=48

so 50fi weg aber kennst ja.

jekyoo_style
08-07-2007, 04:31 AM
I emailed gizmodo earlier about where their getting their SIM Reader/Writer and Silvercard so once they email me back with the sites that they got it from, I will post it immediately for people since it seems like finding sites that sell the SIM reader/write and silvercard is difficult.

So far, it costed them $88 bucks for the sim reader/write and $8 bucks for the silvercard.

aomontreal
08-07-2007, 05:02 AM
Hello all!!!

I am from Calgary and Canada and would love to get that info as well. I do not have an original iPhone SIM. Will that be a problem? if anyone can help me get my iPhone unlocked, I would gladly pay them for their time. It seems like such a waste to have this device and not be ale to use it!

Thanks so much.

Alex

emailed gizmodo earlier about where their getting their SIM Reader/Writer and Silvercard so once they email me back with the sites that they got it from, I will post it immediately for people since it seems like finding sites that sell the SIM reader/write and silvercard is difficult.

So far, it costed them $88 bucks for the sim reader/write and $8 bucks for the silvercard.

Cracker
08-07-2007, 05:04 AM
Anyone know of the exact set up you need in Australia?

Anyone know how to identify a V1 Aussie Sim Card?

Is it illegal for someone to program the silvercard for you? The cheapest programmer I saw was $200!!

da76
08-07-2007, 05:09 AM
Hi Guys

This sim cloning thing is slightly out of my league. If anyone is doing this in Brisbane I would be more than happy to pay for the privliage of using their expertise. I can be contacted on david (at) insights .com.au

daze
08-07-2007, 06:08 AM
Is there a way to find out if your existing SIM is v1 or later? I have an old Fido SIM from 2004. Sassha?

Edit: Fido is a Canadian GSM provider.

captaincool01
08-07-2007, 06:51 AM
I'm in the same boat as David. Anyone in Brisbane or Sydney want to do the job?

Cheers

ipino
08-07-2007, 08:57 AM
Hey Guys, I am in Brisbane also.
I have already ordered the Infinity USB Unlimited (from: http://www.infinityusb.com/default.asp?show=store) and the silvercard (from www.kangamail.com).

When I receive these items, I will attempt to set this up on Vodafone AU. I will keep you informed.

da76
08-07-2007, 09:19 AM
Thanks....Cheers

stendhal_uk
08-07-2007, 09:19 AM
Hi All,

Tried to download link, but is down.

My iPhone should arrive tomorrow here in Manchester UK, was gonna use it as a browser/posh iPhone till unlock is completed.

After reading about the sim cloning i was willing to give it a go.

downloaded the other 2 pieces of software but link to the above is down, anybody give me an alternate link ?

Also my current carrier ( O2 ) sim card is abouy 18months old, how do i check if it is a V1 SIM card.

I can but the reader and silvercard locally but dont want to shell out hard cash if my sim is V2 or V3.

For now i would like to know if anyone has used this piece of software

http://www.pqdvd.net/iphone-unlock-toolkit.html

regards

S

hussainahm
08-07-2007, 10:16 AM
it's not down
replace **** with dsha

captaincool01
08-07-2007, 10:27 AM
Thanks Ipino. My Optus sim is pretty old so hopefully it should be OK. Would you like my email addy?

Thanks, Richard

captaincool01
08-07-2007, 10:31 AM
Ipino,

When it comes to ordering the silvercard, how do i know if it's the one with the narrow chip, not the wide chip, which apparently is difficult to fit into the iphone slot?

My girlfriend and I will be in Brisbane in a fortnight-- I would love if you could help me out. I'm getting excited!

Thanks, Richard

berkar
08-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Hi everybody, I write from Hungary

I bought everything what need for the silver sim, but the latest step, the at t imsi number
I havent, because i havent got at t sim. What can i do, or where can i look after at t imsi??
please write an answer, it is very important! Thank you very much, berkar

Peacer
08-07-2007, 10:47 AM
Anyone successful with this?

stendhal_uk
08-07-2007, 10:58 AM
Doh !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not much point now, my sim is not version 1.

will have to wait for software unlock :(

syntrak
08-07-2007, 10:58 AM
This whole thing seems very long winded in order to make a phone call on an iPhone.

I would suggest being patient, waiting for an unlock rather than tinkering with something you are not 100% certain of.

garyz88
08-07-2007, 11:02 AM
Hi everybody, I write from Hungary

I bought everything what need for the silver sim, but the latest step, the at t imsi number
I havent, because i havent got at t sim. What can i do, or where can i look after at t imsi??
please write an answer, it is very important! Thank you very much, berkar

You may formulate your own ATT IMSI... just follow the required code and format.
Details.. you may find in Wiki.

deepdark
08-07-2007, 11:32 AM
i have a little question,
how i can insert my small sim card in the infinity programmer??
it have a big fissure for card.
I haven't buy it, but i am going to.
do work the cheap sim reader/writer on ebay?
it have only the sim fissure, how i can insert the silver card?

Italiano:
HO una piccola domanda, come metto la mia piccola sim nell'infinity programmer che ha la fessura grande per le card??+
Ancora non c'è l'ho ma vorrei comprarlo.
funzionano i programmatori di sim economici che stanno su ebay?
quelli però hanno lo spazio solo per la sim, ocme gli infilo la silver card? tagliandola?


Qualche italiano mi invi il suo contatto in privato ho bisogno di aiuto!

Find a original Simcard COVER when you buy a simcard from your moperator they are giving you a BIG card and you are taking onut the sim card so there is a hole just put a SLUE type in back sibe and stick it and than put inside the programmer ;)

deepdark
08-07-2007, 11:32 AM
Deep dark,
Can I use this card?
http://modchip.it/shop/detail.asp?lng=EN&idprod=151

I read your earlie post where you mention the silver card small and big, how do I differentiate them from each other?
thanks
Chris



this is not a OK its a BIG one. dont buy it

zhihmeng
08-07-2007, 12:51 PM
Hi, guys:

After spending a lot of time, I learn something about the sim cloning.
Maybe someone want to know kind of things. :)

1. When you got a Silver Card, it may empty within. So the SIM-EMU can't recognize it as an GSM sim card. The error message will be "No Card Inserted".

2. To solve this problem, you may need "IC-Prog" to write the loader(Flash) and the EEPROM into Silver Card.

3. This part you will need two hardware and two hex files. To write the loader(Flash) you need JDM writer. To write the EEPROM, you need the Phoenix Card writer.

These things confuse me a while. So if you guys need to know something else, and happened I know, I'm glad to share everything to you. :)

macphin
08-07-2007, 12:57 PM
So, how did you find out which version you have?

smman
08-07-2007, 01:10 PM
Dear Friends,
I will receive today a Silver card + hardware bought at TELCOMINSTRUMENT.IT

I have downloaded iFuntastic 2.5.0... you think I can use this tool to make the iASIGN and change the EDGE settings?

Any expert please answer me... many thanks.

ikarus79m
08-07-2007, 01:12 PM
How about people who have activated their phone with AT&T and use it in the states? How would the instructions differ for us? Thank you. :-)

kengtay
08-07-2007, 01:12 PM
Can some one answer this question?

1. Can I use Gold or Green Card instead of Silver card?
2. The position 0 and 9, what is the relationship? I know 0 is the cloned information, why we need position 9?

Floctiosus
08-07-2007, 01:52 PM
Found an old German T-D1 GSM Sim ( about 12 years old !) , but as far as i know even with this one its not possible to read the KI !

So it seems to be very hard to find a matching sim in germany !

ominousboi
08-07-2007, 02:08 PM
Hmmm.. I'm in the same boat as David AND Captain cool.. would love to hear of any success stories .. im on Vodafone AU as well.. I'm in Newcastle but can go to Sydney easily and im going to Brissy in a couple of weeks.. would Love for any advice! any of you guys use msn? mayb we can all keep in contact on there too? PM me or something. Cheers Matt

moss
08-07-2007, 02:14 PM
Ok guuys it works for me with french operator SFR (vodafone)

It was very hard 12 hours i spent but i'm very happy now ..

THX A MILLIONS SASHA AND OTHERS YOU ARE GREAT I LOVE CROATIA PEOPLE

ONE MORE THINK CAN I DO THE LAST UPDATE FROM APPLE OR NOT
what do you suggest ???

@+

cashgrow
08-07-2007, 02:16 PM
yes you can!

is there any special reason you used so much time?

daxwert
08-07-2007, 02:18 PM
Hi,
Please HELP.

I need this file and ********** seems to be completely blocked on my Provider.
http://**********.com/files/46917320/SIM_EMU_6.01_iPhone.rar

Would really appreciate someone sending it to me or posting it somewhere.

THANKS

moss
08-07-2007, 02:25 PM
For cashgrow i didn't have a big card for my sim and it was very difficult to recognize my sim card here what i did..
i put my simcard on the other big card (like satellite card ) with scotch until the soft and the programmer read my simcard be careful
the corner must be down at right

cheers

Annalena
08-07-2007, 02:40 PM
Hi guys now, iam planning on to buy the next silvercard. I dont know if this is a big or small chip some one that can help me out if iam buying a wrong card ?

the name is: Silvercard IV Alpha Galaxy

if this is a wrong one can some one give me correct one,s name please ?

is this one the same ? Silvercard IV (Piccard IV) with 16F877 and 24C256

I am in the Netherlands as well. I ordered the Infinity and Silvercard(s) from this shop:

Silvercard (http://www.satboy.com/piccard-2-silvercard.html)
Infinity USB Unlimited (http://www.satboy.com/infinity-usb-unlimited.html)

Hope to receive them tomorrow or thursday. And I hope it will work for old Vodafone (Libertel prepaid 1999) or Orange (Dutchtone prepaid 2001) sim...

teddie
08-07-2007, 03:01 PM
Does anyone know what sim card version Rogers is using , v1/2/3 on the 8930

thanks

Sassha
08-07-2007, 03:07 PM
Read this for all answers about SIM cloning(thx deepdark) - Download at: http://tinyurl.com/2mzp7s

jkenzo
08-07-2007, 03:25 PM
Sassha, I've lost (or better they have stolen) my AT&T Sim Card and have no IMSI, but the ICCD of this card. Can I take any IMSI from an other AT&T card?

I have found a SIM from 1998, it must be v1. Now i contacted my provider to see if they can pass my number to this sim, and it loocks pretty good.

Now, I hope that I can use any IMSI form AT&T..

Mandrax
08-07-2007, 03:29 PM
Ok guuys it works for me with french operator SFR (vodafone)

It was very hard 12 hours i spent but i'm very happy now ..

THX A MILLIONS SASHA AND OTHERS YOU ARE GREAT I LOVE CROATIA PEOPLE

ONE MORE THINK CAN I DO THE LAST UPDATE FROM APPLE OR NOT
what do you suggest ???

@+

super, heureux de voir que ca fonctionne en France.

Pourrais tu venir nous en dire un peu plus sur http://forum.frenchiphone.com/index.php

merci.

ominousboi
08-07-2007, 03:57 PM
will http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZZ8800&CATID=&keywords=smartcard&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=
that
and
www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KC5361&CATID=&keywords=smartcard&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

that work by any chance??

darkchicken50
08-07-2007, 04:00 PM
Hey there, im from NSW, Australia, not a 1337 #4x0R5 (leet hackers) like most of you here lol. But i am an iPhone fanboy to the extreme and i am willing to offer anyone in my general area $100 to set this all up for me, and depending on how awesome of a job you do, i might throw in a little extra sumthin :P

Please do not PM me, just email directly to me at darkchicken50@gmail.com

Thanks

ominousboi
08-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Hey there, im from NSW, Australia, not a 1337 #4x0R5 (leet hackers) like most of you here lol. But i am an iPhone fanboy to the extreme and i am willing to offer anyone in my general area $100 to set this all up for me, and depending on how awesome of a job you do, i might throw in a little extra sumthin :P

Please do not PM me, just email directly to me at darkchicken50@gmail.com

Thanks


Haha..

I second that.. im trying really hard to do it myself but struggling, im also in NSW Australia..
$100 seems like a good price, someone could make a lot of money here!! cmon guys! lol

ozbimmer
08-07-2007, 04:06 PM
hey darkchicken, when waste the $100 while you can get a total unlock soon? Have faith on the dev team :)

The "sim cloning" method is just an interim solution to let those who has v1 sim to use their iphone phone functions. It's not universally applicable and the method might not be accetpable in many developed countries.

ominousboi
08-07-2007, 04:11 PM
hey darkchicken, when waste the $100 while you can get a total unlock soon? Have faith on the dev team :)

The "sim cloning" method is just an interim solution to let those who has v1 sim to use their iphone phone functions. It's not universally applicable and the method might not be accetpable in many developed countries.

See I do agree with that, but ive been reading this forum 10 times a day.. every day staring at the top right corner of my screen waiting for the little yellow "iphone unlock" to turn green.. every time i refresh i get excited, then disappointed.. im not incerdibly disappointed.. i waited a few weeks before buying one.. hoping the unlock would come.. then kept waiting since ive had it .. just using it as an ipod.. waiting waiting.. but i just cant wait anymore.. id be happy to donate $100 to the dev team to get this done quicker but it just doesnt really seem to be coming along as quickly as i would like, not that i dont enitrley appreaciate the efforts, your all doing a wonderful job, but maybe im just a little too impatient? ..

as im sure are a lot of others :(

jkenzo
08-07-2007, 04:13 PM
I've lost (or better they have stolen) my AT&T Sim Card and have no IMSI, but the ICCD of this card. Can I take any IMSI from an other AT&T card?

I have found a SIM from 1998, it must be v1. Now i contacted my provider to see if they can pass my number to this sim, and it loocks pretty good.

Now, I hope that I can use any IMSI form AT&T..

ozbimmer
08-07-2007, 04:22 PM
dear jkenzo, you can use any AT&T/cingular sim... surely you are find it available on the internet...

slmrvoge
08-07-2007, 04:53 PM
Call in/out working
SMS in/out working to

but edge is showing but cannot activated.. Message You are not subsribed to EDGE?
im in Switzerland and using SWISSCOM..

ipino
08-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Ipino,

When it comes to ordering the silvercard, how do i know if it's the one with the narrow chip, not the wide chip, which apparently is difficult to fit into the iphone slot?

My girlfriend and I will be in Brisbane in a fortnight-- I would love if you could help me out. I'm getting excited!

Thanks, Richard

Hey captaincool01,
apparently the silvercards with the ladies face on them are ok. (from kangamail.com) I saw this on another post.
I will let you know how it goes.

invaders
08-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Reporting Dutch success with Vladimir's Super-Sim Method :)

Country: Netherlands
Network: T-Mobile
Sim Card: only 15 months old
Calls In: yes
Calls Out: yes
SMS in/out: yes
GPRS (Pocket Internet Totaal): works
YouTube: no
Using: Infinity writer and silvercard

Amazingly, even conference calls works. Certainly didn't expect that ! When a second call comes in, I can take it and press the Merge Calls button on the iPhone and can have a conference call. Maybe T-Mo is already preparing it's network for the introduction of the iPhone? Or is this a standard network feature of t-mobile?

jimmymac
08-07-2007, 05:24 PM
will any reader writer work? im in canada and cant find the infinity one. will the sony usb 2.0 reader writer work?

Sassha
08-07-2007, 05:33 PM
will any reader writer work? im in canada and cant find the infinity one. will the sony usb 2.0 reader writer work?

Iam not shure,but i think it should. i used Dynamite programer!

jimmymac
08-07-2007, 06:51 PM
I just came from staples and all I could find was a sandisk 2gb card and the reader writer was called a veradim Or something like that the other was a sandisk they were 15 and 1 will those work ?

jkenzo
08-07-2007, 06:58 PM
Peops, must the SIM card be activated or it just works with an unactivated one?

-> I have lost my original SIM, and I have seen on ebay a cheap Cingular card, not activated..

ozbimmer
08-07-2007, 07:09 PM
ok with non-activated ones.

jkenzo
08-07-2007, 07:18 PM
and last but not least: if someone from switzerland has done this procedure, can I simply use his card? I ask because if I see through, the ICCD IMSI is only needed for the phone and has nothing to do with my carrier?!

thx

slmrvoge
08-07-2007, 07:28 PM
and last but not least: if someone from switzerland has done this procedure, can I simply use his card? I ask because if I see through, the ICCD IMSI is only needed for the phone and has nothing to do with my carrier?!

thx
my phone here in zurich is super-sim'd :-)
phone in/out & sms in/out is working ..jupie..

iphoneuk
08-07-2007, 07:44 PM
ok with non-activated ones.

Er...sorry, maybe I'm thick but am I missing something here? Unless I've misread the instructions at the beginning of this thread, don't I need a live account (v1) sim for this to work?

At the moment my current service provider (T-Mobile) is I'm sure a v2 card. I have an old sim with an account on Vodafone that I closed several years ago that may well be a v1 sim. Are you saying I can use this old non-functioning Vodafone v1 sim to clone my existing T-mobile sim?

ozbimmer
08-07-2007, 07:55 PM
no, you cannot use the information of a non-functioning sim to clone your existing sim. Totally different set of IMSI and Ki.

It has to be operational/registered/paid v1 sim.

iphoneuk
08-07-2007, 08:00 PM
no, you cannot use the information of a non-functioning sim to clone your existing sim. Totally different set of IMSI and Ki.

It has to be operational/registered/paid v1 sim.

Thanks. That's what I thought.

I'll just have to be patient and wait for a software solution.

Gerard_Dirks
08-07-2007, 08:13 PM
Hello

Let's hope the iPhone will force the Hacker Scene to finally Hack the COMP128V2 & V3 Algorithm.

I have 2 COMP128V1 SIM's for years and cloned for use in different Handy and my CarPhone. But it would be worth to hacks for COMP128V2 & V3 will be availible soon. Then I would buy a lot of European PrePaid Card for use while traveling!

Let's pray the hackers start hacking the latest SIM Cards

Gérard

Sassha
08-07-2007, 08:35 PM
Hello

Let's hope the iPhone will force the Hacker Scene to finally Hack the COMP128V2 & V3 Algorithm.

I have 2 COMP128V1 SIM's for years and cloned for use in different Handy and my CarPhone. But it would be worth to hacks for COMP128V2 & V3 will be availible soon. Then I would buy a lot of European PrePaid Card for use while traveling!

Let's pray the hackers start hacking the latest SIM Cards

Gérard

I doubt that....I think total software unlock is on its way,so why bother?:cool:

Gerard_Dirks
08-07-2007, 08:53 PM
I doubt that....I think total software unlock is on its way,so why bother?:cool:

Hello

For me it is not importent to unlock the iPhone but to extract the Ki, IMSI & ICCID out of all SIM Cards with COMP128V2 & V3 Algorythm

regards
Gérard

Xanadu
08-07-2007, 09:25 PM
Ok im guessing this is going to be easily answered by someone on here but im a bit lost at the moment...

I have a UK orange sim, rather new, around 11 months, now i understand the V1 sim is needed and understand why, but if i get a v1 sim, how can i carry on with my current contract ?

I.e i want to keep my number, can the V1 sim be re programmed to used the number / contract.


Cheers In advance.

Xan

petermann
08-07-2007, 09:34 PM
what ist this?:confused:

Sassha
08-07-2007, 09:40 PM
U people just dont understand! If your actual SIM card that U are using NOW isnt V1 this is not method for U! U cant programmed V2,V3 to V1 SIM, its what it is! If you wanna get this to work U must buy from someone old V1 SIM card,but then its new number,its new SIM! People who dont have V1 SIM card cant use this method!

Gerard_Dirks
08-07-2007, 09:43 PM
Ok im guessing this is going to be easily answered by someone on here but im a bit lost at the moment...

I have a UK orange sim, rather new, around 11 months, now i understand the V1 sim is needed and understand why, but if i get a v1 sim, how can i carry on with my current contract ?

I.e i want to keep my number, can the V1 sim be re programmed to used the number / contract.


Cheers In advance.

Xan

That will be difficult because in normal cases till will have no V1 in stock (I think the guys in the callcenter doesn't know the difference).

The best way is that you ask them If you can get an old 5 Volt SIM Card because your Car-Phone can't handle the 3.3 Volt SIM Cards. Their is no other way to get an V1 SIM Card

Regards
Gérard

kalunde
08-07-2007, 10:23 PM
hello,
the only thing I don`t get in the description is point 6 in the Making SuperSim section:

6. In position 0 , type in data which u got from your carrier SIM with Woronscan - IMSI,Ki & ICCID!
For ADN/SMS/FDN# type 161, 15, 4, for SMS Centre type in your carrier SMS center number.

what exactly is the SMS center number of my carrier or where can Ifind it ??? maybe a quick call to the provider ?? just give me an example..

thanks in advance

zeljkot
08-07-2007, 11:14 PM
hello,
the only thing I don`t get in the description is point 6 in the Making SuperSim section:

6. In position 0 , type in data which u got from your carrier SIM with Woronscan - IMSI,Ki & ICCID!
For ADN/SMS/FDN# type 161, 15, 4, for SMS Centre type in your carrier SMS center number.

what exactly is the SMS center number of my carrier or where can Ifind it ??? maybe a quick call to the provider ?? just give me an example..

thanks in advance

You can find it in SMS Messages/Settings/Service centre

Electrician
08-07-2007, 11:28 PM
Hello everybody, I've got some questions for you, do I MUST have at&t sim card to unlock it? Please post links, where I can buy tools needed to unlock it :)
I'm from Lithuania, Europe, trying to get one of them and unlock it :)
How do I know that my sim is V1?

zeljkot
08-07-2007, 11:32 PM
Hello everybody, I've got some questions for you, do I MUST have at&t sim card to unlock it? Please post links, where I can buy tools needed to unlock it :)
I'm from Lithuania, Europe, trying to get one of them and unlock it :)

Yes, you must have AT & T sim card.
Look in previus posts for web sites where you can buy tools you need.

Best regards,
Zeljko

yamefa
08-07-2007, 11:33 PM
I m french too, and how did U managed to get the KI ? woron scan try a lot of algorithms, but no KI. this is my mail could you help me ? Do you have a old sim card ?
You can choose 0, 1,2, 3....pairs wich one didi you use ?
12h without any stop ?

997TT
08-08-2007, 12:48 AM
Hello

For me it is not importent to unlock the iPhone but to extract the Ki, IMSI & ICCID out of all SIM Cards with COMP128V2 & V3 Algorythm

regards
Gérard

Dream on... :D :rolleyes:

ReyRey
08-08-2007, 12:58 AM
Anyone from Austria here?

How can I find out what kind of sim card I have? I took it out of my mobile and the only thing that is written on it is "32k Sim Card"! Thank you!

odotan
08-08-2007, 01:33 AM
Has anybody tried this in Israel? What hardware have you used? Where can u get it and for how much? Does anybody know if Orange Israel and/or Cellcom Israel uses V1 SIM's? If not, then when did they stop using them? I have one from orange from about 5 years ago and one from about 6 months ago.

JAVZS
08-08-2007, 06:29 AM
Sassha,
Imagine I have a v2 card but access to KI, then it should work anyway....I guess
Is there any other network related info you would like to know?

zhangyangyu666
08-08-2007, 06:51 AM
Can it use in China?

themagicman00
08-08-2007, 09:29 AM
Does anyone know if my sim card that states 64K means is a v2 or v3? any ideas?
thanks

marcodiver
08-08-2007, 11:15 AM
Hi Sassha,
the new link to the patched Vladi file http://rs217.rapid**are.com/files/47..._iphone_u1.rar doesn't work for me.
Any idea why ?
It seems that the rs217. part of it it's the problem.
I tried to remove it and i go to the right place but than the download doesn't start

Also tried to change the hex code by myself but at the listed offset 7C0h i find different values

Thanks for the help

BTW with the old config file:
TIM Italy OK
Phone in/out yes
SMS in/out yes
EDGE symbol is there not yet tested
other stuff not yet tested (sometimes need also to sleep you know....)

Last Update:
EDGE working fine
YOUTUBE not working

Mandrax
08-08-2007, 11:26 AM
may be there is a method with an other software to extract the KI from V2 SIMcard

http://www.kiscan.net/

Cartier
08-08-2007, 11:35 AM
Hello all,

i have ordered all the equipment needed for this .

what i need to know is as follows.

1) i have noticed a few people on the site asking about an ATT sim card.
doesnt the iphone come with one? ( or does it have to be an activated card ) as i have a unactivated Iphone. Please explain in details.

2) is it possible to get the KI ( Subscriber Authentication Key ) from the Provider ?
I know a few that work at my provider and they use a system called BSCS

3) im not sure about what V sim cards my provider uses. and the simcards that they
issue have no marking what so ever ( other then the providers logo) any way in
finding this out ? what i know is they are using sim cards from Schlumberger. Is
there a software out there that would detect what card you have ? ( this way
people can just check and not ask weather His/her provider is using.) ( would
make this main post less spam with the same questions)

thats all the questions for now :) what would be nice for someone that knows all about this and was successful in working it out to basically give us a few min of his time to read the posts and post 1 really good post with all the answers for the common questions that people are asking. that way this post would be clean and not have 1000 posts about the same issues and what not.

thank you all for your time and help

P.S ignore any grammar / spelling and what not as English is not my First language.
Hope i did not offend anyone.
Hope someone would be kind enough to post a really good post with all the info that is needed.

jkenzo
08-08-2007, 12:46 PM
if someone from switzerland has done this procedure, can I simply use his card? I ask because if I see through, the ICCD IMSI is only needed for the phone and has nothing to do with my carrier?!

thx

jkenzo
08-08-2007, 12:47 PM
Every iPhone cames with a card, and this card must not be activated! But, mine is away (stolen..)

Hello all,

i have ordered all the equipment needed for this .

what i need to know is as follows.

1) i have noticed a few people on the site asking about an ATT sim card.
doesnt the iphone come with one? ( or does it have to be an activated card ) as i have a unactivated Iphone. Please explain in details.

2) is it possible to get the KI ( Subscriber Authentication Key ) from the Provider ?
I know a few that work at my provider and they use a system called BSCS

3) im not sure about what V sim cards my provider uses. and the simcards that they
issue have no marking what so ever ( other then the providers logo) any way in
finding this out ? what i know is they are using sim cards from Schlumberger. Is
there a software out there that would detect what card you have ? ( this way
people can just check and not ask weather His/her provider is using.) ( would
make this main post less spam with the same questions)

thats all the questions for now :) what would be nice for someone that knows all about this and was successful in working it out to basically give us a few min of his time to read the posts and post 1 really good post with all the answers for the common questions that people are asking. that way this post would be clean and not have 1000 posts about the same issues and what not.

thank you all for your time and help

P.S ignore any grammar / spelling and what not as English is not my First language.
Hope i did not offend anyone.
Hope someone would be kind enough to post a really good post with all the info that is needed.

Cartier
08-08-2007, 01:07 PM
may be there is a method with an other software to extract the KI from V2 SIMcard

http://www.kiscan.net/

anyone tried them ? or have any info about this ?

ikarus79m
08-08-2007, 01:22 PM
Please, is there anybody who knows if this will work with a sim card that was legitimately activated through AT&T? How does the process differ for us?

Thank you!!! :-)

catfish
08-08-2007, 01:36 PM
Another option is bladox turbo sim - then all you need is ATT IMSI. No need to clone your SIM, i.e. can be any.

nicco
08-08-2007, 01:43 PM
Another option is bladox turbo sim - then all you need is ATT IMSI. No need to clone your SIM, i.e. can be any.

Something new :rolleyes: How it works? Can career detect it on the network that I'm using bladox?

ozbimmer
08-08-2007, 01:48 PM
catfish: finally someone mention bladox. I have been playing with the TL2 and TP2 for the last few days. good stuff.

catfish
08-08-2007, 01:54 PM
Something new :rolleyes: How it works? Can career detect it on the network that I'm using bladox?

Not at all, it's still you, your card.

Turbo sim modifies content of your sim on the fly, i.e. will do att imsi fakes but your sim does your imsi, gsmo algorithm. You still have your phone book etc. Seems bladox guys played with this already, there is something in their forum.

nicco
08-08-2007, 01:56 PM
Is true - I don't need to clone my v2 sim?
Can someone confirm that it works with iPhone and any sim?


Thanks for reply

justdhruv
08-08-2007, 01:57 PM
It is really amazing to see people from all over the world posting here. i am posting from India. I have a ATT go phone (prepaid) activated iphone with me. so i am in the same position as ikarus79m.

Another question which a lot of people are asking is, how can one find if the SIM of the intended carrier is V1. I am guessing that there would be no visual way of finding this out.

And has anyone tried edge?

Actually i am really on the edge here (no pun intended) and i have even filled up my shopping cart with the silver card and infinity programmer at one of the online stores which can ship to india. But i am not too much of a programmer...and i am on a MAC (but that is not a problem as i can run windows in emulation or natively as well). If this method works across the board, i will go for it.


I also realise that all the useful info on this forum is getting buried in these request posts like mine. Wouldn't it be better to put this issue on a wiki or something. So all the knowledgeable people can put all the pieces together.

nicco
08-08-2007, 02:11 PM
i'm just read about Bladox. So it's not about cloning? It's 100% legal right?
But how can I write the software to that sim? Is there any reference (step-by-step) for iPhone :) ?

berkar
08-08-2007, 02:19 PM
I think its a new way

Is it good?? to make Iphone that can use any SIM??

nicco
08-08-2007, 02:24 PM
I think its a new way

Is it good?? to make Iphone that can use any SIM??

If it works it's not a new way... it's a solid unlock alternative.

yamefa
08-08-2007, 02:31 PM
Hi, I'm from France,

Is it possible to have a mini how to on Bladox ?
Is it material or software ?
It can modify the V2,3 sim ?

Actually I'm trying smart scan to get KI on a V3 sim. If it's working I'll let you know.

catfish
08-08-2007, 02:47 PM
Hi, I'm from France,

Is it possible to have a mini how to on Bladox ?
Is it material or software ?


It's device used together without your SIM, see www.bladox.com


It can modify the V2,3 sim ?

Actually I'm trying smart scan to get KI on a V3 sim. If it's working I'll let you know.

V2/3 use different, unknown, secret algorithm. No chance.

catfish
08-08-2007, 02:52 PM
Little clarification: if turbo sim were used then you don't care about v1/2/3/anything. You leave this to your card to do the proper network auth.

Edreamsz
08-08-2007, 03:07 PM
I just reviewed the info about turbo sim. This looks like the perfect workaround!
( it does cost more than a silvercard)

Can you just program the turbo sim with for instance the unlimited usb card writer?

jkenzo
08-08-2007, 03:16 PM
Will a fake IMSI from AT&T (it means only the first few numbres) also work?

Raxin
08-08-2007, 04:55 PM
[QUOTE=Sassha;13685]Warning! Proceed at your own risk! Your provider can block your subscription!
If your carrier SIM cards is not COMP128V1 this method is not for you!


Thanks to Vladimir_CDI,ozbimmer, who figured this out! I Just wrote a "How to...", let's start....


Step 2 - Getting IMSI from AT&T SIM card which came with an iPhone

1. Put your AT&T SIM card in programer
2. Click on "Tasks" then on "IMSI select" u will get a IMSI number, write it down.
3. Close Woronscan
4. Remove SIM from programer

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First, i am sincerely grateful to Sassha who make this instrument , oz and everybody who devoted a lot of effort of this sim cloning method. When i got my silvercard and read/writer this morning i can't wait to try this solution, every thing is great until the step 2 . As i put my iPhone AT&T sim card in my card read/writer and run woron1.09 , there is the problem come. It shows:

PIN1 is disabled
PIN1 remaining 3 attemps
PUK1 remaining 10 attemps
09:30:01
Starting 2R attack on 0 pair....
The GSM algorithm is not comp128-1 ...Scanning stoped...

I am assured that is my iPhone's AT&T card , but why would this massage
out ? Did my iPhone get the newer sim card? How could i know my IMSI in other way?

thanks for all the folks who can help me

dcolic
08-08-2007, 04:57 PM
I can't download http://www.r*p*d*h*r*.com/files/4749..._iphone_u1.rar

ozbimmer
08-08-2007, 05:00 PM
Raxin: You are checking Ki... If you need to find IMSI click TASK>IMSI Select :)

Sassha
08-08-2007, 05:17 PM
It shows:

PIN1 is disabled
PIN1 remaining 3 attemps
PUK1 remaining 10 attemps
09:30:01
Starting 2R attack on 0 pair....
The GSM algorithm is not comp128-1 ...Scanning stoped...


Some1 ask how to know if your SIM is V1,or V2,V3??!:D

Raxin
08-08-2007, 05:32 PM
thank you ozbimmer ... i resolve it with the buttom "Rst"(Before i pressed it, the IMSI always joined with a blink cursor :( ) and i got all the i